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Generation & Advancement: How I did it by Victor "Madpoet" Frankenstein

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Toughness is too important in WFRP3 so I tried to fix it

 

1/character's starting Wounds depends only on races instead of TO. Humans start with 12, dwarves with 14, elves and halflings with 11.

 

2/Characters's corruption threshold now is fixed to 10 instead of being based on TO.

 

I also changed "a few" other things to enhance realism and speed up the game....

 

3/Expertise (white dice) bonus to characteristics are not used with my house rules.

 

4/A character can gain a single talent per Rank. The gained talents can be always used and don't need to be socketed to the career sheet. 

 

5/Epic Level optional rule (4° + RANK) Action cards specialization (spell included):  every action card can be trained and gain a single Fortune Die. Specialization on basic defenses doesn't add black dice to enemy attack but is needed to before obtaining Improved and Advanced versions.

 

6/To achieve the nex rank a character must spend 10 xp as following:  : 1 wound, 1 talent, 1 skill, 1 action, 6 as he want.

Buying more skills, wounds, action cards than allowed by caree increase the cost by 1 xp.

 

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1.  I think a variant fix might be:  Toughness 5 does not grant bonus wounds (caps at 4).  Toughness 6 works at (-1), etcetera.

 

2. That's probably fair, but might be a bit nit-picky and just clutter up your house rulebook.  A GM can still slap a high toughness character around with more insanities :)

 

3.  Good choice.  The bonus [fortune] white die in characteristics just encouraged dice bloat.  Don't forget you'll need to deal with the careers that have "fortune dice" in their advance list.  I see you deal with this in #6 below.

 

4.  Good idea.

 

5.  Sounds fair.

 

6.  Do you mean "next career?"  Some players may decide to load up on channellign and spellcraft or 6 wounds :)  

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A way we found to lessen the importance of To was to remove it from the soak equation. That is, we played with Soak = Armour + Shield only.

 

To balance the mechanics, Strength was removed from the damage equation as well and we used the optional rule of Higher lethality presented in the Game Master's Toolkit , were each extra success = +1 damage; that is Damage = Weapon damage + 1 per extra success.

 

It worked fine for us.

Yepes

Edited by Yepesnopes

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

 

I'm not a fan of Toughness/Constitution soaking but to change the rule will change too much the game system.

 

I think that TO should not give both extra wounds and soak. This is redundant , wrong and unbalancing.

 

TO is too important.

 

Also allowing extra successes to deal extra damage will change the balance of many attack action cards.

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Also allowing extra successes to deal extra damage will change the balance of many attack action cards.

I always found this optional rule one of the best proposed by the guys of FFG. Apparently they liked it too since it is a core rule in the new Star Wars game. But it is a matter of taste.

 

Anyway, I would not worry by the balance of the action cards, there was never such a thing in Warhammer 3  ;)

 

Cheers,

Yepes

Edited by Yepesnopes

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I've been tempted to base Corruption Threshold on Willpower instead of Toughness, to spread out the love between the stats and encourage PC wizards to dabble in the dark arts.

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I think corruption threshhold should be based on whatever a player's dump stat is.  That would be a really simple house rule.

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I really like the rule but at the same time there are cards that need 3 hammers or a couple of eagle just to get +2 damage or less.

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good rule Emirikol! unfortunately I like to appear a really fair Game Master. Every time I suggest a new rule (75% is against the characters) my players just accept it without complaining (too much ;))

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The optional rule from the GM's toolkit limits the bonus damage from successes (past the best success line on the card) to a maximum equal to your ranks in the skill being used. So it's not quite as open-ended as I understand the EotE system to be.

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