Narsil0420 214 Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) So Morgul Bodyguard (from Morgul Vale) has a shadow effect that reads: "Attacking enemy engages the next player and makes an immediate attack, if able." This is different from other shadow effects which begin with "after this enemy attacks..." I believe it's already clear that if you're playing solo, there's no "next" player so this would not have any effect. The question I have is: does this interrupt his current attack so that it would not complete or deal damage to the defending character? also: If there are other shadow cards in combination with this one, do their effects still trigger (ie "raise your threat by X") before he moves to the next player and starts a new attack (which would recieve a new shadow card)? Edited November 26, 2013 by Narsil0420 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mndela 422 Posted November 25, 2013 Enemy attacks to the original player. Enemy that began attacking to one player, he continues the attack, from your playing area, from other playing area's player, or from staging area ('Light in the dark', for example, not avoid the enemy's attack if it began). And the question about shadows is in faq1.5. Each attack is diferent, and shadows not join themselves. So you discard first shadow cards after enemy starts new attack. Effects of first shadow card are disabled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alogos 171 Posted November 26, 2013 I'm not convinced... It engages next player and still attack the previous one ? ok. But no additionnal attack ? it seems like the text imply so. And we do not know in witch order to resolve the attack. Seems like the one on the next player comes first with a new shadow cards, then you come back to resolving the one on the previous player, wich has already declared a defender. That means there are two defender for the attack on the next player. Quite a mess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Narsil0420 214 Posted November 27, 2013 Got a response from Caleb! Hi Matthew, Great question. If there is no other player for the enemy to attack, then it is not able. In that case, the shadow effect is ignored and the attack resolves as normal. If there was another player, this shadow effect would end the current attack and immediately begin a new attack. Since you reveal shadow cards one at a time, if there are unrevealed shadow cards on the attacking enemy when this effect triggers, they would be discarded when this enemy makes a new attack and is dealt a new shadow card. Hope you're enjoying the scenario! Cheers, Caleb 1 PsychoRocka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandSpleen 1,756 Posted November 27, 2013 Ends the current attack -- so does that mean the current attack ends unresolved? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alogos 171 Posted November 28, 2013 seems like it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoRocka 1,189 Posted March 23, 2014 I've always played that both attacks still resolve rather than the first being cancelled/unresolved..! Definitely makes it a bit easier... Time to go back and play morgul vale some more.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laco 6 Posted March 25, 2015 Got a response from Caleb! Hi Matthew, Great question. If there is no other player for the enemy to attack, then it is not able. In that case, the shadow effect is ignored and the attack resolves as normal. If there was another player, this shadow effect would end the current attack and immediately begin a new attack. Since you reveal shadow cards one at a time, if there are unrevealed shadow cards on the attacking enemy when this effect triggers, they would be discarded when this enemy makes a new attack and is dealt a new shadow card. Hope you're enjoying the scenario! Cheers, Caleb I am losing in this. FAQ 1.7 (1.32) Mid-Attack Control or Engagement Change says that if enemy engages another player during the resolution of an attack, that attack still resolves. I thought that the shadow card is dealt to enemy only at the beginning of combat phase. Unless the shadow effect says otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandSpleen 1,756 Posted March 25, 2015 On the next page of that FAQ we've got this: (1.42) Additional attacks by an enemy When an enemy makes an additional attack, discard all of its previously dealt shadow cards before dealing it a new shadow card. So the enemy should get a shadow card. But the whole 'end the current attack' thing is a big question mark for me. I don't see why it should end the attack unresolved. 1 Laco reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laco 6 Posted March 25, 2015 Ah, that I overlooked. So new shadow card is "resolved". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites