Test Run + Femme + Scavange combo

[Dydra 32]

So I was playing with a Shaper friend the other day and we kinda' got in the argue if this combo is working? 

So first he Test Runs for Femme Fatale ,  do what he does and before the end of the turn he scavanges it , so it enters the game "regularly".

The problem is that Test Run says "When this turn ends, add the program to the top of your stack, if it's still installed" 

As far as wording go - yes the program is still installed.

but he insisted on that it's not correct, because it's "a different entity "  

Could I get a conformation on that?

[Wh0isTh3D0ct0r 360]

Scavenge can be used on Femme Fatale after it is installed by Test Run. It is considered to be "installed" until the end of the runner's current turn. If, however, at the end of the runner's turn Femme Fatale is still installed, then it goes to the top of the runner's stack. (aka, "draw pile").

[Wh0isTh3D0ct0r 360]

This is a great combo, too, because it effectively reduces the vanilla cost of installing a 9-cost program like another copy of Femme Fatale by 5.

 

3 credits + 1 click (Test Run) + 1 click (Scavenge) = 5   vs.   9 credits + 1 click (install Femme Fatale) = 10

 

However, having all four required cards in your grip is difficult.

Edited October 31, 2013 by Wh0isTh3D0ct0r

[Dydra 32]

I don't understand what you are talking about ... 

1) In the first post you explain me how  Test Run works, which I already know.

I said that my friends insist, that you can Scavenge her, after Test Running , so SHE KEEPS staying IN PLAY ( installed) instead of the Test RUN to RETURN her to the top of your stack

2) What 4 cards???? You need only 2  - Test Run and Scavenge ...

Please, no more troll replies, thank you ...



EDIT: The question is that if Scavange is used to "re-install" a Test-run Femme Fatale, does it become a "different entity" , hence " a different program" , which stops the  "At the end of the turn" effect on Test- Run?

Edited October 31, 2013 by Dydra

[Saturnine 47]

Yes, once a card leaves play there's no "memory" if it being installed. Scavening a Femme Fatale creates effectively a new copy of the card that has nothing to do with Test Runs lasting effect.

[Dydra 32]

Thank you mate 

[Sttyca 20]

and if you scavenge for this combo, remember, you have the opportunity to pick the same or different ice as Femme's target.

[Grimwalker 647]

Only the most obvious example of a maxim I try and hold to:

Only suckers pay retail price.

[Sttyca 20]

Only the most obvious example of a maxim I try and hold to:

Only suckers pay retail price.

haha

[Grimwalker 647]

 

Only the most obvious example of a maxim I try and hold to:

Only suckers pay retail price.

haha

 

 

I'm not even kidding--when I see a card like Monolith or Blackguard, it immediately says to me "don't pay money for this."

PW+Stimhack is the classic example.

Modded.

Oversight AI and Bioroid Efficiency Research.

Test Run + Scavenge, as mentioned in the OP. Why do you think so many Shapers are splashing Morningstar?

 

Use recurring credits to break Pop-Up window, don't just pay through it.

Minelayer, in a sense.

I could go on, but there are so many ways in the game to cheat cards into play that if your strategy involves paying MSRP for installs/Rezzes, you're playing a sucker's game. Obviously you can't do it all the time, but you can boost your efficiency by looking for those opportunities.

[Sttyca 20]

 

 

Only the most obvious example of a maxim I try and hold to:

Only suckers pay retail price.

haha

 

 

I'm not even kidding--when I see a card like Monolith or Blackguard, it immediately says to me "don't pay money for this."

PW+Stimhack is the classic example.

Modded.

Oversight AI and Bioroid Efficiency Research.

Test Run + Scavenge, as mentioned in the OP. Why do you think so many Shapers are splashing Morningstar?

 

Use recurring credits to break Pop-Up window, don't just pay through it.

Minelayer, in a sense.

I could go on, but there are so many ways in the game to cheat cards into play that if your strategy involves paying MSRP for installs/Rezzes, you're playing a sucker's game. Obviously you can't do it all the time, but you can boost your efficiency by looking for those opportunities.

 

I wasn't disagreeing. I just laughed a little at the wording.