LordAggro 0 Posted April 1, 2009 Well, I'm trying to get on the Block 3 boat, so I sort of threw this deck together. The only non-negotiable things are the character and the resource symbol of choice (Good). Everything else is fair game, so fire away, guys. Starting Character: *Yi Shan* (6 HS 29 Vitality) (Earth, Good, Life) Actions (2): 2x Bringing the Master to His Knees (4/6 +2M; Breaker: 2) (Good) - All-around negation Assets (5): 1x Assassination Arts (3/5 +2H; Unique) (Earth, Good) - Committing power, damage reduction 2x Mysterious Stance (3/4 +1M) (Earth, Good) - Blocking 2x Seal of Cessation (3/3 +2L) (Infinity) - All-around negation Attacks (16): 4x Ichi no Tachi (3/3 3M3 +2M; Weapon) (Good) - Committing power, multiple hate 4x Rolling Buckler Uppercut (3/3 3M3 +1H; Powerful: 1, Reversal) (Good) - Momentum generation, reversal capability 4x Shadow Blade (5/2 4H5 +2M; Reversal, Stun: 2) (Good) - Committing/destructive power, damage, reversal capability 4x Yugao (5/3 4M5 +2M; Reversal, Weapon) (Good) - Control, damage, reversal capability Foundations (34): 2x Alluring Beauty (1/4 +1L) (Good) - Committing power, copying 2x Voice of the Land (1/5) (Good, Life) - Blocking 4x Amy's Assistance (2/4 +1M) (Earth, Good) - Committing pwoer, damage reduction 4x Detached (2/5) (Good) - Committing power, control, momentum hate 4x Fight or Flight (2/4 +2M) (Good) - Damage buffing, multiple hate 4x Free Will (2/5) (Good) - Recursion 4x The National Tae Kwon Do Treasure (2/5 +2H) (Earth, Good) - Damage buffing 4x The Red Lotus of the Sun (2/5 +3L) (Good) - Committing/destruction hate 2x Without a Care (2/5) (Good) - Control 4x The Darkhunter of the Night (3/5 +3L) (Good, Life) - Speed buffing Splits (3): 3 Refusal of Power (3/3 +1M) | (5/3 3M3 +1M) - Committing power, control Statistics - CC's: 1 - 0 (0.000%) 2 - 4 (6.667%) 3- 17 (28.333%) 4 - 12 (20.000%) 5 - 25 (41.667%) 6 - 2 (3.333%) Average: 4.067 Statistics - Blocks: HIgh - 9 (15.000%) Low - 12 (20.000%) Mid - 27 (45.000%) Total: 48 (80.000%) OK, just wanna set the record straight: I (unfortunately) own 0 Annu Mutsube, and 0 Feline Spike, as well as only 1 *Yi Shan*. So suggestions there won't help me much. I'm just looking to make a decent deck, thought I am willing to make some changes based on the advice. Questions/thoughts/comments? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cetonis 0 Posted April 1, 2009 Random things to think about... Attacks to consider: In general I'm not sure you need to be worrying so much about reversals. With a 6HS and no true card draw you'll probably have to deliberately hold back on your own turn just to get the chance to play one. I've found that more often than not, that's not a good thing to be doing. It is nice to be able to pop Free Will and then reversal, but you don't need 12 reversals in your deck to be able to find one in your discard. I'd be looking to drop Yugao and at least 2 if not all the Uppercuts in favor of some of these. Heel Snipe - 6 diff, but the static can be very very good. Vulcan Punch - Slow, but comes for 6x2. Charlie's Fierce Punch - Blow up their FoFs, Amy's, Olcadans, etc. (wait, you have no Olcadans? ouch...) 4diff 3H6 isn't bad either. Lynx Tail - Great synergy with Fight or Flight. Bring it to 7L0, than FoF it to 7L8. Good stuff. Soul Piette - Yi Shan wants to play strings of attacks, so solid 4/3s like this one are at least worth a look. Foundations to consider: Ikari Warrior - One of the best momentum hate cards in the format right now. White Magic - You could use more 1diff foundations, and this should be able to cover any extraneous momentum needs you have on its own. (all you're really using it for is 2x Myst. Stance and maybe Vulcan or MMtW) More Machine than Woman - You don't have a ton of momentum using cards right now, and the bonus commit should come up often with Yi Shan and Amy's. Don't forget the action side, either - on the second attack of a turn or more it will often hit for -3 to -5 damage as a surprise from your hand. +2 Voice of the Land, -2 Alluring Beauty - Your character has a 6HS, so anything that acts as pseudo-card draw is good. Particularly, recurring and blocking with Bring the Master and its Breaker: 2 repeatedly is Some Good. On a similar note, I don't think you'll be able to afford the two cards for Alluring on any kind of regular basis. Empire's Ruin over Darkhunter - Your biggest attack is 10 damage with FoF, so it's not like you're relying on making a particular gigantic finisher go through. It may be better to be able to get +2 to each attack you play, plus ER comes at 1 difficulty and blocks better. lose the Refusals - Form committal is a fine ability, but you have a ton of 2-3 checks as it is. You already have Detached and Ichi no Tachi, and could potentially add Heel Snipe or MMtW if you really want to, so your commit power isn't that lacking that you need to spend a 3-check foundation on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wafflecopter2 0 Posted April 1, 2009 Quick note -- If you reduce a Lynx Tail to 0 damage and then Fight or Flight it, it will go up to 4 damage. FoF reads "Reduce this attack to its printed damage" -- the keyword is reduce, that sentence can only bring the damage down. Then the +X damage kicks in and gives it +4, to a total of 4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockstar2 0 Posted April 2, 2009 No sweat about owning only 1x *Yi Shan*. Pre-Release, pick up a couple Yi Shan starters and you're all set! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockstar2 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Also, Anti Social for draw power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordAggro 0 Posted April 10, 2009 *Thread Necromancy!* Thanks for the comments, guys. Let me address them: @Cetonis: Is there a way to even get Heel Snipe? My store doesn't have it, and it doesn't show up on any site (not even eBay). Vulcan Punch just seems too... slow. I mean, I've seen 2 speed attacks hit, but that's usually in committing engine decks, and after one attack has been blocked already. I'll try to get my hands on Charlie's Fierce Punch and Soul-Piette. Thanks! Good call on More Machine than Woman. I've added it to the deck and it works fairly well. I tossed the Refusals and Darkhunter and added Empire's Ruin. It does run smoother. @Wafflecopter: Thanks for the catch on Lynx Tail. It's still worth considering though, as it basically ends up as a E Commit: This attack gets +4 speed. @RockStar: What would you suggest remvoing for Antisocial? I'm a bit lost on that regard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wafflecopter2 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Lynx Tail is still awesome, just because 3L6 are REALLY GOOD stats The new set has goodies for you . My thoughts on highlights -- Chi Disruptor. 2M5 isn't fantastic for printed stats, but it's only 4 diff and it has a nifty reverse-after-blocking ability. Crown of the Forgotten Secret -- unless I misread this card, it + Yi Shan's ability adds up to "Your opponent plays Feline Spike, and makes the multiples. If you don't block or use a single effect with a cost, you take a grand total of 12 damage." Hope for One's People -- if you ever hit Desperation, your opponent will wish you hadn't Any of the 3-difficulty 3 damage attacks -- Yi Shan makes them hurt Any of Siggy's stuff -- you already make aggro decks rage. Now you can make control decks too :3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites