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Second Hero speculation

Who do you guys think (or hope)? Another Rohan. character? Someone from a neighboring region (perhaps an elf or hobbit)? ANOTHER dwarf? A new Theodred that fits into the new Tactics/Spirit Rohan alignment? Personally I want to see the Marshal of the West-Mark, Erkenbrand, which would mirror the combo in HoN (both heroes from same area, one a big name, the other, less widely known but still crucial to the plot of LotR).

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Second Hero speculation

Who do you guys think (or hope)? Another Rohan. character? Someone from a neighboring region (perhaps an elf or hobbit)? ANOTHER dwarf? A new Theodred that fits into the new Tactics/Spirit Rohan alignment? Personally I want to see the Marshal of the West-Mark, Erkenbrand, which would mirror the combo in HoN (both heroes from same area, one a big name, the other, less widely known but still crucial to the plot of LotR).

i think the 2nd hero is the woman on the images. must be an elf as you pointed out....im guessing ffg-created

 

arwen would be random to say the least.....certianly isnt galadriel, and as i said, not many left from that

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Second Hero speculation

Who do you guys think (or hope)? Another Rohan. character? Someone from a neighboring region (perhaps an elf or hobbit)? ANOTHER dwarf? A new Theodred that fits into the new Tactics/Spirit Rohan alignment? Personally I want to see the Marshal of the West-Mark, Erkenbrand, which would mirror the combo in HoN (both heroes from same area, one a big name, the other, less widely known but still crucial to the plot of LotR).

i think the 2nd hero is the woman on the images. must be an elf as you pointed out....im guessing ffg-created

 

arwen would be random to say the least.....certianly isnt galadriel, and as i said, not many left from that

 

 

I second Rich's guess. It could be FFG-created, but I think it could be Arwen. It looks like Magali's work and looks like a hero, battle-ready version over her damsel in distress objective version.

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Second Hero speculation

Who do you guys think (or hope)? Another Rohan. character? Someone from a neighboring region (perhaps an elf or hobbit)? ANOTHER dwarf? A new Theodred that fits into the new Tactics/Spirit Rohan alignment? Personally I want to see the Marshal of the West-Mark, Erkenbrand, which would mirror the combo in HoN (both heroes from same area, one a big name, the other, less widely known but still crucial to the plot of LotR).

i think the 2nd hero is the woman on the images. must be an elf as you pointed out....im guessing ffg-created

 

arwen would be random to say the least.....certianly isnt galadriel, and as i said, not many left from that

 

 

I second Rich's guess. It could be FFG-created, but I think it could be Arwen. It looks like Magali's work and looks like a hero, battle-ready version over her damsel in distress objective version.

 

 

The article also says two "notable" heroes. I might be reading too much into the use of the word, notable, but I don't think the hero will be ffg-created.

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ah- didnt see that. i really do want it to be eowyn...i know the ears are saying different- perhaps she just went to a fancy dress party?

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true....but what would be the connection? if we are going in order, the arwen should still be in rivendell...unless she travels back to lorien. perhaps this is the cycle for silvan? silvan/rohan....i like it

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My hunch is that it is a hero version Arwen. It is definitely Magaili's art, and it looks strikingly similar to the Arwen art she has done already. It could be that she is visiting from Rivendell to join our heroes in the quest, just like the elves did in the Dwarrowdelf cycle. It's not too much further away from Rivendell so I don't think it's too much of a stretch.

 

As for the male elf on the left, it could be hero version of Haldir. At least, that's what I am hoping for. More silvan synergy would be welcomed.

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So much cool info with this.  First of all i'm really glad to see that Eomer's ability gives him a plus 2 attack and not a plus 1 (especially with the now confirmed limited once per round...i prefer this over plus 1 limit 3 per round).  It wont be hard at all ensure he's striking with 5 each turn...I'm liking him a lot.  Also, i cant even explain how excited I'm going to be to create a "Captains of the West" deck using core Aragorn, Prince Imrahil, and Eomer...especially given that the latter two seem perfect for each other.

 

Putting the doomed keyword on cards is a really great idea to encourage more strategic deckbuilding and influence greater decisions in game rather than just picking which characters quest, attack, and defend as can often become commonplace.  The fact that they have cards that indirectly work with these voluntary threat increases like the orthanic guards and orthanic keys are also quite cool as it suddenly becomes its own archetype (one not limited to a "trait" either...although it seems the "isengard" trait will be surprisingly plentiful)

 

Call me crazy but my first reaction to Saruman is not a great one.  Cost is reasonable and stats are great obviously but the threat gain is a bummer and i dont really think the ability is that great.  Firstly because it can only be something in the staging area and secondly, because it just removes it from play for a single turn...so its still going to be there.  Its not even like if you picked an enemy you could attack and kill it off without worrying about it attacking you and you wont be able to travel to the location that you select and clear it from the board in its weakened state.  Maybe it'll be better in practice but I think i'll be trying some of the other cool cards before i will Saruman

 

Finally my favorite topic...hero speculation!  The female elf on the banner is a bit interesting.  The looks work just fine but it seems somewhat out of place for her to have a sword drawn and bruised from battle.  I also dont think its a created character because as previously mentioned I'm sure the term "notable" for the hero selection was done very purposefully.  Its going to be someone we know.  I remember when Heirs of Numenor was announced there was the banner picture of the then unkown Celador who many people thought might have been the artwork for Faramir but that obviously ended up not being the case.  The elven female may just be an ally...or if it is Arwen, good for FFG for portaying her differently enough to make us debate about it haha.

 

Also...on page 1 a few of you said you saw an elf that looked it could possibly be Haldir?? where is that? the only banner characters i see are Eomer, that smug orc, and the elven female

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Also...on page 1 a few of you said you saw an elf that looked it could possibly be Haldir?? where is that? the only banner characters i see are Eomer, that smug orc, and the elven female

top left of the about page i think

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Also...on page 1 a few of you said you saw an elf that looked it could possibly be Haldir?? where is that? the only banner characters i see are Eomer, that smug orc, and the elven female

top left of the about page i think

 

I feel stupid, dont see it anywhere.  To the left of Eomer?

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I also cannot see the elf, just eomer, the orc and the female elf which i also believe to be arwen.

So .... Is christmass close ? cause i cannot wait or long :P

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Also...on page 1 a few of you said you saw an elf that looked it could possibly be Haldir?? where is that? the only banner characters i see are Eomer, that smug orc, and the elven female

top left of the about page i think

 

I feel stupid, dont see it anywhere.  To the left of Eomer?

BStAD0tCMAAoLYD.png

 

Where you are seeing Eomer, used to show an elf. Tricksy FFG put up a new banner. I'm trying to find a cached image.

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Also...on page 1 a few of you said you saw an elf that looked it could possibly be Haldir?? where is that? the only banner characters i see are Eomer, that smug orc, and the elven female

top left of the about page i think

 

I feel stupid, dont see it anywhere.  To the left of Eomer?

BStAD0tCMAAoLYD.png

 

Where you are seeing Eomer, used to show an elf. Tricksy FFG put up a new banner. I'm trying to find a cached image.

 

 

oh man, please do.  dying to see the image now

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maybe someone is better with finding cached images than I am? feel free to join the hunt. Perhaps someone with more GeekGold (BGG) than I have will post a bounty?

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Westfold Outrider (The Rohan Ally sort of spoiled) seems to have an exhaust to choose and enemy (or location) in the staging area. Will it be an attack? Will we have a tactics ally that can do locations? That seems rather cool. 

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After searching my cache (which was intact) I found an image that kept popping up as a black square (and therefore I presume was the image that got deleted). It was "MEC25_bg_mini.jpg". They may have, alternatively just written over the old file with a new one and kept the same name (MEC25_bg-b.jpg).

Good luck finding it.

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Hmmm very interesting and suspicious. I think my vote is going to that character (presumably Haldir) as the second hero. It's a significant individual and the removal of the image is just too much of a coincidence. I can see the conversation at FFG now: "put up a picture of the new hero as part of the banner" "ok done! What do u think?" "No! Not that hero! The one that's already revealed! Hurry and change it." "Ok sorry... There....I bet no one even notices"

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