The Crown Regent Title

[Old Ben 0]

Staton_70
When do you use this ability to redirect? Specifically, if someone redirects a military to themselves with The Kingsguard Title, can you then redirect with the Crown Regent title?

ktom
- The rules say Crown Regent's redirect happens after the attack is initiated, but before defenders are declared. Therefore, it is essentially a Response (not really, but that's the timing) to the challenge being initiated. You do not get the chance to see anything of the challenge other than they type and which characters are attacking before this redirect.

- The rules say the Kingsguard title redirects after the original defending player declares NO defenders. The rules go on to say that you jump backwards to the beginning of the "assign stealth/declare defenders" action window. So stealth can be reassigned.

So no, the timing of the two titles does not allow the Crown Regent to redirect a challenge that the Lord Commander has taken for themselves.

[the1andonlime 0]

Just to clarify:

The right time to play Crown Regent's ability is during step 5 of the challenge declaration framework?

I always thought it was during the player action window after challenge declaration.

[ktom 598]

the1andonlime said:

Just to clarify:

The right time to play Crown Regent's ability is during step 5 of the challenge declaration framework?

Actually, the correct time to use it is during Step 3 of the challenge declaration framework window. (As I said above, it is not really a Response; it just kind of feels that way). When you redirect an attack with the Crown Regent, you are effectively replacing one defending player with another. Nothing else happens between announcing the original defender, the Crown Regent saying "nah," and announcing the new defender.

Crown Regent lets you much about with how the challenge is being declared, so its timing is in those framework steps, not as some sort of separate triggered effect.

If you waited until the Player Action window between declaring attackers and declaring defenders, just about any other Challenge phase effect could be played before you decide to redirect the challenge. That's not how a "redirect" works.