Han Solo

[Kaxel Vofer 121]

    I don't know if it will be resolved, but I have this answer, at last how many dice you need to reroll???, all???, or only what you want???, and why???, greettings.

[Bjorn Rockfist 525]

Per the rulebook a die can only be re-rolled once.  That being said look at it like this.  You are using Han and preformed the Target Lock action.  You roll 4 attack die (would be at range 1 yes) you rolled 1 eye and 3 blanks.  You could spend the Target Lock and re-roll the blanks.  Say you got 2 hits and a crit from the TL re-roll….you could now use Han's ability to re-roll the eye, but since the other 3 dice had already been re-rolled they can't be re-rolled thus locking them.

[Grimwalker 647]

Kaxel Vofer said:

    I don't know if it will be resolved, but I have this answer, at last how many dice you need to reroll???, all???, or only what you want???, and why???, greettings.

I seriously don't understand how you can read the Han Solo pilot card and have to ask this question. What exactly is unclear about "you must reroll as many of your dice as possible?"

[Filthy Pierre 110]

"you must reroll as many of your dice as possible?"

 

It confused me at first too. But after you understand the rule that the attack dice can only be rerolled once it becomes a little clearer.

 

If you decide to reroll your attack dice from Han Solos attack, you must reroll all dice that have not already been rerolled.

Which is different than changing the result from a focus eye to a hit or a special upgrade like marksmanship.

 

We have changing the dice result and rerolling the dice result. Two different things.

 

If you had a target lock and used it to reroll 2 out of 3 attack dice, then you decide to use Hans ability you may only reroll the one dice that has not been rerolled already.

 

 

I hope I got that correct. LOL

[BigM2010 0]

I can't see the point of rerolling after a target lock reroll - the Han Solo ability is only useful if you don't score hits with any dice, or a gamble if you have scored 1 hit. if you use the target lock to reroll 2 misses, then Han Solo rerolls the other, which was probably a hit or an eye, else you would have rerolled it already with the target lock

[Grimwalker 647]

BigM2010 said:

I can't see the point of rerolling after a target lock reroll - the Han Solo ability is only useful if you don't score hits with any dice, or a gamble if you have scored 1 hit. if you use the target lock to reroll 2 misses, then Han Solo rerolls the other, which was probably a hit or an eye, else you would have rerolled it already with the target lock

Exactly, which is why Han Solo and Target Lock don't synergize well. I was just commenting on the OP's question where "as many as you want" is somehow a possible interpretation of "as many as possible." As long as you are aware of the rule that any given die may only be rerolled once, it becomes clear from Han Solo's card that if you don't like your first roll, you have to reroll all your dice.

[Roycebanuelos 0]

There's always the situation of Han having a Target Lock on someone and having a focus as well. Rolls a focus and 2 blanks for an attack, TL rerolls the 2 blanks and gets 2 more blanks and decides to risk the focus dice with a reroll as opposed to using his focus so he has the chance to use his focus token while defending. 

Very situational but still an option.

I think TL gives you a good option with Han since you have the chance to keep your TL if you need it. Let's say you attack with 4 dice and roll only one hit, well now you have an option to go for all 4 again while maintaining a TL for a future attack where you might roll 2 hits or a crit and wouldn't want to re roll everything. 

 

[RodTheCid 48]

Ok, I think that clears it up.

So in other words, Han allows a re-roll of attack dice (unless they have been re-rolled already), but you must re-roll all of them, even the ones with hit/critical results if any.

Am I understanding this right?

[dbmeboy 807]

Ok, I think that clears it up.

So in other words, Han allows a re-roll of attack dice (unless they have been re-rolled already), but you must re-roll all of them, even the ones with hit/critical results if any.

Am I understanding this right?

That is correct.

[RodTheCid 48]

great, thanks!

[rmdecal 0]

Okay so I actually think everyone has it wrong here.  The rule book does say you can only reroll once, but it also says "While a ship has at least one stress token, it cannot execute red maneuvers or perform any actions (even free actions)."...yet anyone that has played the game with Tycho knows that they "break" that rule b/c it is Tycho's special ability and he performs actions all the time.  Why is this not the same logic here?  The normal rule for everyone not named Han Solo can only reroll their dice one time, but his special ability trumps the rule the same way Tycho's trumps the normal stress rule.  I mean we are talking level 9 Han Solo people!!!!  If we don't apply this logic you are all right...his "special" ability is terrible. 
 

 

[CrookedWookie 1,258]

No, there's nothing that says Han exempts the rules in that way.  In fact, just the opposite.  The reason he says "as many as you are able" is that if any of his attack dice have already been rerolled (say, a Target Lock) they cannot be rerolled again.  If for some weird reason you decided to spend a target lock and roll ONE of his dice, you could then use Han to reroll every die BUT that one if you wanted to.  Han is simply a gambler's version of a target lock - he can reroll, but it's all (or as close to all as possible) or nothing, instead of selective.

 

That wording is in there precisely to make sure you do NOT use him to reroll dice more than once.

[Keffisch 2,642]

Pair him with Gunner and you will see why his ability is far from terrible, it is in fact downright terrific!

[Kaxel Vofer 121]

  Thanks, greettings.

[Hida77 951]

Okay so I actually think everyone has it wrong here.  The rule book does say you can only reroll once, but it also says "While a ship has at least one stress token, it cannot execute red maneuvers or perform any actions (even free actions)."...yet anyone that has played the game with Tycho knows that they "break" that rule b/c it is Tycho's special ability and he performs actions all the time.  Why is this not the same logic here?  The normal rule for everyone not named Han Solo can only reroll their dice one time, but his special ability trumps the rule the same way Tycho's trumps the normal stress rule.  I mean we are talking level 9 Han Solo people!!!!  If we don't apply this logic you are all right...his "special" ability is terrible. 

 

nope they have it right.  His ability is very far from terrible.  As an aside, when several people chime in all with the same answer on a rules forum, I think it is a safe bet that they are correct unless you can site a specific reason they are not.  Nowhere in Han's ability does it say he overrides the normal rules for rerolling.  There is no direct conflict with the rules which would cause them to be overridden.  Tycho's ability does directly conflict which is why it overrides the rulebook.

[VanorDM 11,599]

yet anyone that has played the game with Tycho knows that they "break" that rule b/c it is Tycho's special ability and he performs actions all the time.  Why is this not the same logic here?

Because Tycho expressly says you can break the rules, Han doesn't say anything about being able to reroll dice again.

Unless a rule is expressly stated as not being in effect, or that the effect can break the rule, then you can not ignore the rule.

[Cptnhalfbeard 680]

Interesting way to necro a thread. Did he really wait a year to say thanks, or was this just a troll move? Not funny enough to be a troll move, so I dunno.

[Sergovan 1,440]

Interesting way to necro a thread. Did he really wait a year to say thanks, or was this just a troll move? Not funny enough to be a troll move, so I dunno.

I just caught that too...

[WonderWAAAGH 7,153]

The world doesn't have nearly enough comma splices, superfluous question marks, and misspelled words. Kaxel is just fulfilling his civic duty to propel our future towards a Mike Judge dystopia.

 

"That the future, don´t be so smart".

Edited September 19, 2014 by WonderWAAAGH

[Kaxel Vofer 121]

   Thanks, greettings.

[AtillaTheFun 82]

Hah I'm glad he necro'd this again so I could read your response Wonder.

Edited October 4, 2014 by AtillaTheFun

[Kaxel Vofer 121]

    Well, greettings.