Jean-Claude Van Damme

[Kitties_Outcast 0]

ok im working on a guile deck, but im still working out the kinks...i still dont have a big kill card...i mean i have sonic boom extras that i wanna make the kill card, but theyre too easy to block in block 3...at least the way i have it...

anyway here's what i have so far:

a=air i=infinity o=order v=void

character (1):

guile7 (a, o, v)

 

actions (4):

tag along x4 (a, o)

 

assets (10):

assassination arts x2 (o)

olcadan's mentoring x4 (i)

seal of cessation x4 (i)

 

attacks (11):

double somersault kick .. x4 (a, o, v)

hurricane punishment x3 (a, v) (questionable, but i really like the stats on it as well as the ability, but im open to suggestions)

sonic boom extra x4 (a, o, v) (like i said, i want this to be the kill card, but how do i make it impossible or nearly impossible to block...i havelone wolfs and KFT in my side deck since all my attacks have void, but thats not a sure thing either...this is where im stuck)

 

foundations(38):

aim high x4 (a, o, v) (good stats, lets me put a block into my momentum)

amy's assistance x3 (o)

chester's backing x4 (a)

experienced combatant x3 (o, v) (i like these a lot but at the same time while playtesting i hardly ever had much of a hand...i mean if i have still like lone wolf, tira's, my ability, etc. then thats ok, but i would prefer to have some sort of a hand)

holding ground x4 (o)

ikari warrior x3 (a)

lone wolf x4 (o)

lord of the makai (a, o) (i only have 1 of these sadly...if i had more this would run a lot smoother)

makai high noble (a, o) (once again i only have 1 but i feel that this is necessary for all the olcadans out there...everyone and there dog runs there where i play...so one is better than zero imo)

more machine than woman x4 (o) (great name for a guile deck lol...anyway i like this card a lot...it's kind of a tweener with it being a split card, but 9 times out of 10 ill use it as the foundation or a block, and i love the foundation commit ability)

natural leader x3 (a, o) (theres a chance that these become lord of the makai if i can aquire them, but for now theyll suffice i guess)

tira's contract x4 (a)

TOTAL: 64 if u include the character

side deck (8):

assassination arts (o) (a third one just in case i need reinforcements vs my opponents character card)

kung-fu training x4 (v) (for pesky action decks if i run into any as well as a speed boost, refer to sonic boom extra)

make a difference x3 (a) (for rush decks, hopefully i can get these out quick and slow them down a bit)

 

now obviously there are quite a few cards that don't match symbols, but it seems like it will still go pretty well since there is a good balance of each symbol, and 8 infinity cards to boot...please let me know what you think and how i can make this deck stronger...especially with the sonic boom extra...thank you for your time!

[Kitties_Outcast 0]

i mean there is the dropping 4 BRTs on their block, but i dont have those obviously, so any other suggestions will help

[Kitties_Outcast 0]

I still need some help with this. Like I said I dont have BRT, just 1 LOTM, and no KOF 2006, but i still think there is something i can do to up Sonic Boom Extra to near impossible to block mode with significant damage. LMK what u think. Also, I replaced 1 Holding Ground with 1 Amy's Assistance.

[Makingsenseofus 0]

Some cards to help:

Aquakinesis: need card draw? this card is great for giving yourself the extra plus one handsize to let you get more out of experienced combatant

Unorthodox training: Force your attacks through for massive DMG's. The 2 diff action side is absolutely sick.

Kuzuryu reppa: One of the greatest cards ever printed, practically made to go along with unortodox training. play it, pitch your hand to pitch there's, draw back up and keep swinging.

Professional soldier: The poor man's LotM. Couse you DO have to stick your assets/foundations in instead, but it has some lovely synergy with...

Caged arena: Stay alive forever, then on your kill turn, add it into your momentum with pro-soldier and wreck face.

other good cards to consider:

Chinese boxing: matches order AND wind, keeps one of their foundations out of the picture for quite a while

The ways of punishment: unfortunately only matches void, but great for getting your stuff to connect

Sogetsu's support: Plenty of discard/draw if your in need of some extra

Inhuman perception: A wise man once said "you can never have enough negation". I don't know if that was meant to apply to card games, but I believe it.

Shooting copooera: why not?

 

Stuff to consider taking out:

Aim High: doesn't guile do this already?

Natural leader: Pro soldier may be a good replacement

More machine than woman: Its cool, but caged arena may be a better option. The foundation commit ability is pretty sweet though.

Lone wolf: At the very least, knock this card down to 2 or 3, its pretty useless with multiple copies out

Tira's contract: I've never been sold on this card, but if it works keep it in.

 

Also, nice one on the ikari warriors. Almost EVERYONE uses momentum to win. Same with holding grounds.

Good luck with the deck, hope something I said helped.

[spyke132 0]

if your still looking for a kill i suggest you look at lunar slash.  not only is it the poormans feline spike, but it sports a multiple rating of two with a enhance that draws you cards.  It hits off of two of your symbols (order, void) and it can be used as a block.  It can also combo off with sonic boom extra.  You throw the sonic boom first asa smoke screen, then follow it up with the lunar slash and wreck house.  Im also going to say the obvious.  Why arent you running this deck as a strait order build, not only is it one of the most retarded symbols in the game right now, it solves alot of your current problems.  it commits, kills, delays death (by way of cutting edge) and makes your oppoent groan with despair when they see the jank you pull off.  these are just my suggestions.  good luck with the deck

[Makingsenseofus 0]

also, if considering lunar slash, though it could work with practically any kill condition you can come up with, Personal style can give +3,4 or 5 to any attacks in your cardpool.

[Kitties_Outcast 0]

well if i do go only order, i would lose Chesters and Ikari Warriors, which i really need, as well as Tira's, which i really like

Guile only adds blocks i used during MY turn and at the cost of a momentum, Aim High just gets it out of the way

Professional Soldier is nice, but no block ...right now the only thing without a block is Tag Along...however i will take it into consideration

Tira's is in here for a.anti-throw and b. so i can have blocks without having a hand (thats the main reason i made this deck, people keep getting rid of my hand and killing me lol)

i have no idea what Sogetsu's support is lol

i may try to get a couple of Lunar Slashes and replace Hurricane Punishments with those

Im still debating on some of the other cards yall named

I made a few changes based on what I own and youre suggestions so heres what we have now:

Guile7

Actions 4:
Tag Along x4

Assets 10:
Assassination Arts x2

Olcadans x4

Seal of Cessation x4

Attacks 10:
Double Somersault Kick .. x4 (probably gonna be Kuzuryu Reppa if i can get them)

Hurricane Punishment x2 (probably gonna be Lunar Slash)

Sonic Boom Extra x4

Foundations 39:
Aim High x3

Amy's Assisstance x4

Aquakinesis x2 (only have 2)

Chester's Backing x4

Experienced Combatant x3

Holding Ground x3

Ikari Warrior x3

Lone Wolf x3

More Machine Than Woman x3

Natural Leader x3 (may be professional soldier)

Tira's Contract x3

Unorthodox Training x4 (most likely use as the action, but still there)

Total w/ character: 64

Side Deck:
Assassination Arts

Kung-Fu Training x4

Make a Difference x3

[Makingsenseofus 0]

What I meant by sogetsu's support was the cards

Familial Loyalty

and

An efficient method for slaying people

[Kitties_Outcast 0]

o haha my bad...well actually i do like the Familial Loyalty ill see if i can pick some of those up

[Zero Cross 0]

Just so you know, Guile's ability can be played during either turn.  You still have an end phase during your opponent's turn; your opponent clears their card pool first then you follow.  There is a relevent ruling in the FAQ but it's pretty deep in the land where no one cares anymore.

[spyke132 0]

zero cross is right, guile's abilityt can be used on either turn, thats what makes him so good, as he blocks he builds.  Im gonna suggest that you add in another assassination arts, one is because its such a good card and your deck can abuse the hell out if it, two is for consistency.  Once you drop the assination arts, it makes your opponent rethink his attack strategy, also now they have to worry about another really nasty peice of damage redux, and the impression i get from your decklist, you have a fairly defensive style of play, i still say that you should go the mono order route.  if it is really important to you to keep the chesters backing and tira's you can splash for air, most of your foundations share at least the order and the air symbol so chaining shouldnt be a problem,  anyway that just my two cents worth.  good luck man

[Kitties_Outcast 0]

o ok...well that changes things a bit lol...ok i took out the Aim Highs and put in the 3rd Assassination Arts....if i can get the Lunar Slashes all my attacks will be order

i dont like to be too defensive just well prepared lol...mostly because im waiting for a good kill sequence...if i had the cards im missing this would be more aggressive...

ill go solid order but what would i use...i would lose unorthodox training which is my way of getting stuff through, as well as the 3 said cards

and would that also mean i can use Assassination Arts' response at the end of my turn since my opponent has an end phase

[Makingsenseofus 0]

Lunar slash has void on it so I really don't see you needing to switch that aspect of your attack base around.

As for order's fun foundation base, you get chinese boxing (common from KoF2006), Program malfunction (Uncommon from Realm of midnight), Psycho Style (uncommon from deadly ground), Charismatic (rare from Warriors dream, only run one!), Forethought (Uncommon from Flash of the blades), I would definately look into getting more makai high nobles and aquakinisis', Personal style (starter deck Haomaru rare)

That's just to name a few. Course many are uncommons so they may be a bit more difficult to find, but people in your area may be able to part with them in trades and what not.

[spyke132 0]

Makingsenseofus said:

Lunar slash has void on it so I really don't see you needing to switch that aspect of your attack base around.

As for order's fun foundation base, you get chinese boxing (common from KoF2006), Program malfunction (Uncommon from Realm of midnight), Psycho Style (uncommon from deadly ground), Charismatic (rare from Warriors dream, only run one!), Forethought (Uncommon from Flash of the blades), I would definately look into getting more makai high nobles and aquakinisis', Personal style (starter deck Haomaru rare)

That's just to name a few. Course many are uncommons so they may be a bit more difficult to find, but people in your area may be able to part with them in trades and what not.

 

hes right, order is the king of commiting, if you can try to get your hands on a playset of blood runs true, they are a little tricky to get but they are so good. one they soft hack your opponents cards, which is nice, two you get to draw a card, three they can "slow mill" your opponents by making them spin two cards instead of one, four the can force through attacks by hacking your oppenents blocks (works great with forethought), five if you come up against another deck that runs forethought it gets around those because your combat phase does not end, six it plays a disruption game by changing the tempo of your opponent.  also they have great stats at 2/5 with a +2 high block.  if your serious about changing your attack string to order i would recommend this

4x omnidirectional cluster bomb (gets you two free momentum off of attack side, and commits any card off of action side)

4x high plasma beam (combos really good with personal style, and can have damage upwards of 7-15)

3x lunar slash (kills and draws you two cards)

to me that is the most effeicent attack string for the meta that i play in, so it could be different for yours

any way the deck is starting to pique my interest, i think that i might try playing it for a really good change of pace, if i have good results ill let you know, so you can make yours even better.  and dont worry i wont steal the list from you

good luck

[Kitties_Outcast 0]

ok heres what the deck looks like now:

Guile7

 Actions 4:
Tag Along x4

Assets 10:
Assassination Arts x2

Olcadans x4

Seal of Cessation x4

Attacks 8:
Double Somersault Kick .. x4

Sonic Boom Extra x4

I have Kuzuryu Reppa x4 and Lunar Slash x2 coming in so we'll see

Foundations 42:
Amy's Assistance x4

Aquakinesis x4

Chester's Backing x4

Experienced Combatant x3

Familial Loyalty x4

Ikari Warrior x3

Lone Wolf x3

Lord of the Makai

Makai High Noble

More Machine Than Woman x3

Natural Leader x3

N-Type Human x4

Personal Style x4

Total w/ character: 64

Side Deck:
Assassination Arts

Kung-Fu Training x4

Holding Ground x3
 

Almost all order with a splash of air. This deck is total stall right now and I hate it. It's just been sitting there waiting for my opponent to deck, which is boring as crap. I'm hoping the new attacks will help that. Also, where can I find the ruling on having an end phase on both turns? Can I do Assassination Arts response at the end of my turn?

[Kitties_Outcast 0]

Slowly, but surely, this deck is evolving.

Guile7

 

Actions 4:
Tag Along x4

Assets 10:
Assassination Arts x2

Olcadan's Mentoring x4

Seal of Cessation x4

Attacks 10:
Double Somersault Kick .. x3

Sonic Boom Extra x2

Kuzuryu Reppa x3

Lunar Slash x2

Foundations 40:
Amy's Assistance x4

Aquakinesis x4

Chain of Command x3

Chester's Backing x4

Experienced Combatant x3

Familial Loyalty x4

Ikari Warrior x3

Lone Wolf x3

Lord of the Makai

Makai High Noble

More Machine Than Woman x3

Natural Leader x3

N-Type Human x4

Total w/ character: 65

Side Deck:
Assassination Arts

Kung-Fu Training x3

Holding Ground x4
 

[Kitties_Outcast 0]

Updated tell me what you think:

 

Guile7

 

 

Actions 4:
Tag Along x4

Assets 10:
Assassination Arts x2

Olcadan's Mentoring x4

Seal of Cessation x4

Attacks 10:
Double Somersault Kick .. x3

Sonic Boom Extra x2

Kuzuryu Reppa x3

Lunar Slash x2

Foundations 39:
Amy's Assistance x4

Aquakinesis x4

Blinding Rage (not great with just one but it has good stats at least)

Chain of Command x4

Chester's Backing x4

Experienced Combatant x3

Familial Loyalty x4

Ikari Warrior x3

Lone Wolf x3

Lord of the Makai

Makai High Noble

Natural Leader x3

N-Type Human x4

Total w/ character: 64

Side Deck:
Assassination Arts

Counter the Assault x3

Holding Ground x4
 

[spyke132 0]

i would say take out the sonic boom extra for high plasm beam, you only hit off of one symbol (order) but it will go a long long way in your deck. its gonna give you a low difficulty high damage output attack to drop as a finisher after a lunar slash.  also see i you can get your hands on foour copies of flames of fame, it hits off of two symbols with your character (air, order) and is going to let you A) draw three cards after you spill out six cards in your card pool, and B) clear a card from your card pool at the cost of three life (which isnt that much to your 26 vitality). good luck with the deck

[Kitties_Outcast 0]

Yea I was thinking something like HPB, but I just wasn't sure. Flames of Fame was a thought also, but I hardly ever have 6 cards in my card pool, and I really don't know if I have a reason to get rid of my card pool, other than my opponents turn I suppose.

How is your deck running spyke? Or do you have one?

[Kitties_Outcast 0]

Updated once more

Guile7

 

 

 

Actions 4:
Tag Along x4

Assets 10:
Assassination Arts x2

Olcadan's Mentoring x4

Seal of Cessation x4

Attacks 11:
Double Somersault Kick .. x3

High Plasma Beam x3

Kuzuryu Reppa x3

Lunar Slash x2

Foundations 38:
Amy's Assistance x4

Aquakinesis x4

Blinding Rage (not great with just one but it has good stats at least)

Chain of Command x4

Chester's Backing x4

Experienced Combatant x3

Familial Loyalty x4

Ikari Warrior x3

Lone Wolf x3

Lord of the Makai

Makai High Noble

Natural Leader x3

N-Type Human x3

Total w/ character: 64

Side Deck:
Assassination Arts

Counter the Assault x3

Holding Ground x4