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Expansions based on the prequels?

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How I'd do it:

Keep Sith, Jedi, Scum and Villainy, and Smugglers and Spies. Add Republic and Separatist Confederacy. To avoid having too much disparity between the four "timeline neutral" affiliations and those introduced for the prequels, there could be a big ol' boxset with an emphasis on the latter, sort of like they're doing with SnV and SnS in the Edge of Darkness expansion. When they introduced the Order of the Silver Twilight faction to Call of Cthulhu: The Card Game, when that game was already rich with material for its seven existing factions, they compensated by weighting the next cycle's content towards the new faction in order to bring it up to speed, along with the fact that a lot of the Silver Twilight's early content emphasized "splashability" that made it worthwhile to include in decks that focused on a different faction. They would likely need to do the same thing here, but the task is made trickier by the fact that the new affiliations would be divided from existing ones by the timeline itself. To keep the Rebel Alliance and Imperial Navy factions from falling behind, any Force Pack cycle that deals with prequel material should also visit the early days of Palpatine's New Order, as well as the first sparks of rebellion. Since the game already takes a relaxed stance on continuity, I personally would have no problem seeing material from the Rise of the Empire era alongside Rebellion era content in the same Force Pack, so long as each followed a consistent theme (in a given cycle, there could be a "Jedi Purge" pack followed by a "Declaration of Rebellion" pack, for example).

But none of this ought to be necessary right away. After all, the Classic era is where the money is, and without even deviating from the main saga aside from following the existing trend of slipping in subtle nods to the Expanded Universe, there is easily enough material to cover four more cycles of Force Packs after Hoth, by which time Episode VII will have made it into theaters. If FFG indeed has plans and permission to expand the game beyond the Classic era, the next place it is likely to go with the license is the new film.

So let's just hope it doesn't suck. :)

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we are going to get EU and prequel stuff if the game is going to last. There is only so much we can get via the OT. 

If you guys want the game to last two years than ok no EU/Prequel stuff but odds are they will have to dip into that kind of stuff at some point.
Just saying.

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Jonnyb815 said:

we are going to get EU and prequel stuff if the game is going to last. There is only so much we can get via the OT. 

If you guys want the game to last two years than ok no EU/Prequel stuff but odds are they will have to dip into that kind of stuff at some point.
Just saying.

 

EU stuff is not up for debate, we already know for a fact we are getting EU stuff seeing as we have seen EU cards like:

 

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Well, my concern is if it will have EU stuff like the Thrawn trilogy, the Yuuzhan Vong, etc., seeing as Disney might erase all that from continuity. So probably prequel stuff before EU stuff lentioned above.

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cdgodin said:

 

Well, my concern is if it will have EU stuff like the Thrawn trilogy, the Yuuzhan Vong, etc., seeing as Disney might erase all that from continuity. So probably prequel stuff before EU stuff lentioned above.

 

 

The most likely order, for both the reason you mention as well as marketing logic given the timeframe, is Classic era → Sequel era  Classic-Sequel gap (which could either be the New Republic we know or whatever arises out of canon supercession) → Prequel era. How long FFG spends in each of these periods is up to them, and of course they could quite possibly mix-and-match from cycle to cycle.

As for the potential for the EU to remain as-is? Much like how the quality of EU works depends both on the skill of the writer and his or her dedication to established lore, the stability of the New Republic era as it currently stands, rests in the hands of whomever is writing the story for Episode VII. Also, never underestimate the power of retcons to explain away discrepancies. For example, from the earliest days of pre-Classic EU, the Republic was assumed to have existed for 25,000 years, based on Obi-Wan's reference in A New Hope to "over a thousand generations" of Jedi Knights promoting peace and justice in the Old Republic. So when the prequels came around and made references to a mere thousand-year-old Republic, the Ruusan Reformation was born.

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I want the EU stuff more then prequels. From the way disney is going it looks like they might at least be respecting the EU enough to set the new movies far enough after that much shouldnt get changed. Plus like they did with boba fett im sure they will find a way to "fix" anything thats changed so it will fit with "most" of the EU stuff still out there. Timothy Zahn always says think of them as historical documents and sometimes historians get certain events, information ect wrong.

But im hoping we will get shadows of the empire block or at least a deluxe set in between the empire strikes back era sets and the return of the jedi sets. Then they can continue with truce at bakura, and begin going thru the EU. I think novels should get full force pack blocks, and comic story lines (except for the dark empire and crimson empire stuff perhaps) should get delux box releases.

Thats just how I would do it, im sure whatever they have planned will be cool. But so far im loving the EU that they are sneaking into the game.

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Do FFG even have the rights to the preqeuls? I thought I read that they don't. I don't want the prequel triliogy included. I didn't like it in the SWCCG and I won't like it with the LCG. I think they have years of content without even getting to the EU (which I'd rather have). We have 6 months of Hoth, that doesn't even get to the other stuff from the original triliogy. If anything, I think they'll include stuff from the new movies before anything else because it will be timely. 

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cdgodin said:

Well, my concern is if it will have EU stuff like the Thrawn trilogy, the Yuuzhan Vong, etc., seeing as Disney might erase all that from continuity. So probably prequel stuff before EU stuff lentioned above.

Mara Jade is already on cards

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cooleo1c said:

cdgodin said:

 

Well, my concern is if it will have EU stuff like the Thrawn trilogy, the Yuuzhan Vong, etc., seeing as Disney might erase all that from continuity. So probably prequel stuff before EU stuff lentioned above.

 

Mara Jade is already on cards

 

Mara Jade exists during the Galactic Civil War, regardless of what happens afterward.

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Ulairi said:

Do FFG even have the rights to the preqeuls?

 

Probably. The Edge of Darkness page shows a Bail Organa card, whick looks exactly like Jimmy Smits. Bail may have appeared in EU, but not Jimmy Smits. 

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DrNate said:

Ulairi said:

 

Do FFG even have the rights to the preqeuls?

 

 

 

Probably. The Edge of Darkness page shows a Bail Organa card, whick looks exactly like Jimmy Smits. Bail may have appeared in EU, but not Jimmy Smits. 

 

at the same time Bail exists in the time of the classic trilogy until Alderaan is destroyed and obviously they would base it off the only actor who played him in any of the movies. 

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DrNate said:

 

Ulairi said:

 

Do FFG even have the rights to the preqeuls?

 

 

 

Probably. The Edge of Darkness page shows a Bail Organa card, whick looks exactly like Jimmy Smits. Bail may have appeared in EU, but not Jimmy Smits. 

 

 

Watch a Let's Play of The Force Unleashed. Bail Organa is a major figure in that game, and he is very much portrayed in Jimmy Smits' likeness. The Force Unleashed takes place only a couple years prior to the trilogy, making it a reasonable inclusion in this quasi-continuity thing they've got going for the card game.

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MarthWMaster said:

DrNate said:

 

Ulairi said:

 

Do FFG even have the rights to the preqeuls?

 

 

 

Probably. The Edge of Darkness page shows a Bail Organa card, whick looks exactly like Jimmy Smits. Bail may have appeared in EU, but not Jimmy Smits. 

 

 

Watch a Let's Play of The Force Unleashed. Bail Organa is a major figure in that game, and he is very much portrayed in Jimmy Smits' likeness. The Force Unleashed takes place only a couple years prior to the trilogy, making it a reasonable inclusion in this quasi-continuity thing they've got going for the card game.

AND it is one of the only EU stories that are 100% Lucas approved

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OMG I just realized I can never play this again I played a deck that destroyed the timeline and it's in the core set- Obi Wan and Ewoks! That is impossible and makes no sense NERRRDRRRAGEE

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Cards like Guardian of the Peace, Twi'lek Loyalist, and some of the other generic jedi are clearly prequel-era cards in my eyes.  Those characters would all be dead by OT-era times.  I think that's proof enough that you could introduce prequel material to this game without creating nightmare rules issues, and without leading to a player/fanboy revolt.

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The Empire Brings Sexy Back said:

Cards like Guardian of the Peace, Twi'lek Loyalist, and some of the other generic jedi are clearly prequel-era cards in my eyes.  Those characters would all be dead by OT-era times.  I think that's proof enough that you could introduce prequel material to this game without creating nightmare rules issues, and without leading to a player/fanboy revolt.

 

I disagree, those cards represent people still loyal to the ideals of the Old Republic and the Jedi Order but are not actual Jedi themselves and are not prequel era cards. We have not seen any prequel stuff yet and if we ever do it is not for a while yet.

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Toqtamish said:

The Empire Brings Sexy Back said:

 

Cards like Guardian of the Peace, Twi'lek Loyalist, and some of the other generic jedi are clearly prequel-era cards in my eyes.  Those characters would all be dead by OT-era times.  I think that's proof enough that you could introduce prequel material to this game without creating nightmare rules issues, and without leading to a player/fanboy revolt.

 

 

 

I disagree, those cards represent people still loyal to the ideals of the Old Republic and the Jedi Order but are not actual Jedi themselves and are not prequel era cards. We have not seen any prequel stuff yet and if we ever do it is not for a while yet.

That is obviously Jar Jar in CC casino. Sorry

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Not necessarily Jar Jar, but definitely a Gungan. I don't know; I just prefer to not think of the worst character in the Star Wars saga as sharing an objective set with Han.

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Toqtamish said:

The Empire Brings Sexy Back said:

 

Cards like Guardian of the Peace, Twi'lek Loyalist, and some of the other generic jedi are clearly prequel-era cards in my eyes.  Those characters would all be dead by OT-era times.  I think that's proof enough that you could introduce prequel material to this game without creating nightmare rules issues, and without leading to a player/fanboy revolt.

 

 

 

I disagree, those cards represent people still loyal to the ideals of the Old Republic and the Jedi Order but are not actual Jedi themselves and are not prequel era cards. We have not seen any prequel stuff yet and if we ever do it is not for a while yet.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

That's one way to interpret those cards, and of course we're all perfectly entitled to our own interpretations, but that's just what they are, interpretations.  I may think they they are prequel cards, while you think they are OT-era cards, but we don't know for sure.  The point is, FFG could come out tomorrow and say that those cards ARE prequel era cards, and then boom there are prequel cards in SWLCG, and have been since Day 1.  And things would continue on normally and we'd all still continue playing.  So bring on the gungans I say!

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Emperor Palpatine and Yoda are both featured quite strongly in the Prequels, to say nothing of Obi-Wan, but nobody has mentioned these yet!

Guardian of Peace looks suspciously like the Dark Woman to me, and while she is a prequel-era figure, she's eventually killed by Vader sometime around the Galactic Civil War (if that Tales story is to be believed). But so many Jedi have survived into the Dark Times and beyond that it's hard to see just how effective Order 66 actually was. Given the artwork on the specific cards mentioned, though, they are wearing Jedi robes strongly reminiscent of the prequel-era Jedi, which does argue strongly that they are 'prequel-era cards', but unless we get cards that are specifically 'Mace Windu' or 'Qui-Gon Jinn', I don't think it'll take too much imagination to see that they are all meant to be Jedi in Hiding, but have been given different labels and artwork to make the game a touch more interesting. 

Personally, I would quite like to see K'kruhk, Ferus Olin, Shaak Ti and maybe even Quinlan Vos show up in this faction - without thinking we're branching out into the prequels. 

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spalanzani said:

 

Personally, I would quite like to see K'kruhk, Ferus Olin, Shaak Ti and maybe even Quinlan Vos show up in this faction - without thinking we're branching out into the prequels. 

 

 

Shaak Ti would be a smooth addition. And she can stay non-prequel if she has to, because I'm very much onboard with there being a LS objective that includes a rancor.

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MarthWMaster said:

spalanzani said:

 

Personally, I would quite like to see K'kruhk, Ferus Olin, Shaak Ti and maybe even Quinlan Vos show up in this faction - without thinking we're branching out into the prequels. 

 

 

Shaak Ti would be a smooth addition. And she can stay non-prequel if she has to, because I'm very much onboard with there being a LS objective that includes a rancor.

I have a soft spot for Felucia, and I regard that whole portion of The Force Unleashed as its one redeeming feature, so would greatly appreciate seeing anything from that cropping up in this game. Maris Brood, rancors, Felucian shaman, sarlacc - oh, be still my heart! 

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