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Edge of Darkness Deluxe Expansion

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I'm totally excited for this expansion! It looks every bit as good as I was hoping. There are some neat cards, like Reversal of Fate. Plus, I'm really excited to get Bossk and Slave I on the table.

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Rozgutt said:

If I understand the news correctly, we'll have to buy two deluxe expansions to get the full set of cards?

If my math isn't off, you seem correct (22*5=110) and I guess again two sets are in there a second time (like the core game)… well at least I know how much to order …

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Well, it's a pity - you only have to buy a single force pack, but two deluxe expansions.

It's still better than TCGs, though!

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Kiwamu said:

If my math isn't off, you seem correct (22*5=110) and I guess again two sets are in there a second time (like the core game)… well at least I know how much to order …

22*6=132 (objective cards are still cards)

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So, you don't need two sets to get all of the cards, since 6 x 22 is 132, the number noted in the article.

As more of a collector than a player, though, I have to ask: What do they mean by "Competitive players can have a complete playset with two copies of Edge of Darkness?"

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NathanPButler said:

So, you don't need two sets to get all of the cards, since 6 x 22 is 132, the number noted in the article.

As more of a collector than a player, though, I have to ask: What do they mean by "Competitive players can have a complete playset with two copies of Edge of Darkness?"

Tournament legal decks can include two copies of the same objective.  Edge of Darkness has 22 unique objectives, so you'll need a second box if you want to run more than one of a particular objective set.

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So, in order to stay competitive I must buy two deluxe expansions, but if some objectives are limited to one per deck, I have to buy cards that I won't be able to use. I though we already learned that lesson.

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Buying a second set and getting a playset of everything you want still beats buying a booster box and MAYBE getting what you need but most likely needing 1-3 more booster boxes to complete your playset.

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All this talk about purchasing extra sets made me think of something and tell me if I'm just crazy because it's a competive card game, but…

 

I completely understand the idea and stagetic power behind owning 2x core sets, deluxe expansion sets, and even smaller expansion sets for deckbuilding purposes and competitive tournament play… That being said, FFG seem to pride themselves on the "closeness" to the movie battles and events during gameplay and they obviously want to stay true to the franchise so how is for example: playing 2x Obi-Wan cards among others staying with the feel of the franchise.

I can see it for TIE fighters and other standard units like that but for Elite cards such as Yoda, Vader, Paplatine etc I personally think it takes away from the feel of it. Can you appreciate what I mean? or are you all hardcore card players and you gotta do what you gotta do to win haha. Am I alone in this?

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Tobogan said:

So, in order to stay competitive I must buy two deluxe expansions, but if some objectives are limited to one per deck, I have to buy cards that I won't be able to use. I though we already learned that lesson.

If there are Limited objective sets in this big expansion, I hope they will be neutral, so that they can be used in multiple decks.

The really disappointing part is that they are charging the same price for fewer cards. For most of the big-box expansions for the other LCGs, you get 165  cards for your $29.95. This one only gets you 132 cards, AND requires you to purchase two to be "competitive". I think there should have been a bit of a price break for getting fewer cards & having to buy two, but I guess that's the price of a hot license - or just milking a cash cow.

It sucks for the FLGS too, because people will be more likely to seek out the cheaper online alternatives if they have to buy more than one copy to be "competitive".

 

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Nexuhs said:

All this talk about purchasing extra sets made me think of something and tell me if I'm just crazy because it's a competive card game, but…

 

I completely understand the idea and stagetic power behind owning 2x core sets, deluxe expansion sets, and even smaller expansion sets for deckbuilding purposes and competitive tournament play… That being said, FFG seem to pride themselves on the "closeness" to the movie battles and events during gameplay and they obviously want to stay true to the franchise so how is for example: playing 2x Obi-Wan cards among others staying with the feel of the franchise.

I can see it for TIE fighters and other standard units like that but for Elite cards such as Yoda, Vader, Paplatine etc I personally think it takes away from the feel of it. Can you appreciate what I mean? or are you all hardcore card players and you gotta do what you gotta do to win haha. Am I alone in this?

Uhm, Obi-Wan is a unique card, and therefore you cannot "play" 2x of him… also all of the other Elite cards you mention…

 

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flightmaster101 said:

Kiwamu said:

 

If my math isn't off, you seem correct (22*5=110) and I guess again two sets are in there a second time (like the core game)… well at least I know how much to order …

 

 

22*6=132 (objective cards are still cards)

 

I knew something was off… well I know now^what it was… besides they pretty much updated their news page and confirmed it…

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Unknown said:

Buying a second set and getting a playset of everything you want still beats buying a booster box and MAYBE getting what you need but most likely needing 1-3 more booster boxes to complete your playset.

Woah, and buying a booster box, is still cheaper than crafting your own spaceship and destroy a death star (but not cooler). This is a LCG, not a TCG/CCG, and other LCGs get deluxe expansions with full playsets nowadays.

Maybe this is for balancing the fact that you only need to buy one coreset. They want our money back.

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Tobogan said:

Unknown said:

 

Buying a second set and getting a playset of everything you want still beats buying a booster box and MAYBE getting what you need but most likely needing 1-3 more booster boxes to complete your playset.

 

Woah, and buying a booster box, is still cheaper than crafting your own spaceship and destroy a death star (but not cooler). This is a LCG, not a TCG/CCG, and other LCGs get deluxe expansions with full playsets nowadays.

Maybe this is for balancing the fact that you only need to buy one coreset. They want our money back.

 

 

Or maybe it is to balance the fact that in the core set you get one of each objective set and with this giving you one of each objective set and adding this to your one core set you now have one of each objective set for the factions starter decks and don't need to buy anything else if you don't want to but have 6 fully playable factions.

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ziggy2000 said:

Nexuhs said:

Uhm, Obi-Wan is a unique card, and therefore you cannot "play" 2x of him… also all of the other Elite cards you mention…

 

As far as I know, once a unique card gets put into the discard pile, you can bring out that character's card again from the draw pile.  I don't remember where exactly I read that in the rules forum, but I do remember reading it.  If this isn't the case, someone please let me know.  As far as having to buy two sets, as of right now, I don't like the idea of it however, it is still cheaper than buying ccg's or even miniatures, both of which I have done.  I can remember playing SW miniatures and spending $60 on one Boba Fett Bounty Hunter piece because it was THE piece to have, so all in all, I think this hobby will still turn out to be cheaper than anything else and just as much fun.  Personally, my favorite cards right now are the Boba Fett with the blaster and mandalorian armor cards, makes Boba into the beast that he truly is.  Every single DS deck I put together has the Bespin exchange objective in it and I can't wait to get more BH's. 

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sithhappens44142 said:

 

Nexuhs said:

Uhm, Obi-Wan is a unique card, and therefore you cannot "play" 2x of him… also all of the other Elite cards you mention…

 

As far as I know, once a unique card gets put into the discard pile, you can bring out that character's card again from the draw pile.

 

 

 

Correct, it is right in the rules that you cannot have two copies of a unique card in play. But once it is in the discard pile it is no longer in play and nothing stops you from playing another one at that point.

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Ah, sorry, because the book says that it will be added in a deluxe expansion in early 2013 I just assumed it was that.  I misremembered the name I guess.

Also, sad face.  But I guess they needed to get the other 2 factions in and solid first.

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