Flintacs 0 Posted February 5, 2013 If I have reached draw cap can I kneel Tommen Baratheon to draw zero cards in case I just want to kneel him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sttyca 20 Posted February 5, 2013 Short answer: yes Long answer: Why would you want to kneel him if you're getting no benefit whatsoever? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flintacs 0 Posted February 5, 2013 There are a lot of situations for this. The simplest case is using a plot which says that "knelt characters cannot be killed". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sttyca 20 Posted February 5, 2013 Flintacs said: There are a lot of situations for this. The simplest case is using a plot which says that "knelt characters cannot be killed". If that's what you wanna do it, sure. I personally don't use that plot cause it gives your opponent the benefit as well… I'm not a big fan of giving my opponent a leg up in any way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flintacs 0 Posted February 5, 2013 Is it really allowed? When you can't do the action you can't pay the cost for it, can you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktom 598 Posted February 5, 2013 Flintacs said: Is it really allowed? When you can't do the action you can't pay the cost for it, can you?~ You ask, we answer, you ask again? What's up with that? There is no rule that says "in order to trigger an effect or ability, you must anticipate that it will resolve successfully." Quite the contrary. Instead, the rule is that "in order to trigger an effect or ability, you have to be able to a) meet the play restrictions; b) choose all required targets; and c) successfully pay the costs." So it's all about whether or not you can successfully initiate the ability, not whether or not it will successfully resolve. The Draw Cap does not create a play restriction on initiating effects, so it doesn't interfere with initiating Tommen's ability. Once you successfully initiate it, the rule stops it from resolving successfully (we usually say "it fizzles"), but by the rules, so long as you can meet the play restrictions, the target requirements, and pay the cost, you can initiate the effect, even if there is no reasonable believe that anything useful will happen when it resolves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flintacs 0 Posted February 5, 2013 Thank you! Now it's clear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites