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Wear and tear on movement dials

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So I've only played a handful of 6-7 games, a drop in the bucket compared to many of the people here. Still, the print on the outside of the movement dials is starting to come off. While this doesn't effect gameplay, it makes me wonder how these things will look after a year+ and dozens upon dozens of games.

I'm considering coating the outside of the dials in a protective sealant. Anyone else had this problem and tackled it in a similar way? Any recommendations on the kind of coating to use?

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Ooh, good to know, thanks!

This should be stickied, very useful info for everyone to know as soon as possible when they start collecting.

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wiles01 said:

I went to Lowes and picked up several bags of 3/8" nylon washers.

 

They just fit in between the 2 cardboard top and bottom parts of the dial.  It keeps the cardboard from rubbing together and also makes the dials easier to turn.

 

http://i.tfcdn.com/img2/_b8-P00AYyq6fci4JD8_pzg-MS8lPiOxKKU8sSiVIaOkpMBKXz81uUIvMzcxPbVYNzE3sSo_Ty85P1cfIqLvqW9kaJwckpeRHhTgo5dVkA4A/fyVMtP8A

greta idea……I'll be giving them a try

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Thunder_Chicken said:

Are there any tricks to taking maneuver dials apart for this procedure?  There become stuck together pretty tightly.

Take a small pair of pliers, grasp one of the post by the outer edges, then gently twist and pull out and away from the dial.  It worked beautifully for me, no damage to the dial or anything :-)

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Thunder_Chicken said:

Are there any tricks to taking maneuver dials apart for this procedure?  There become stuck together pretty tightly.

I used my pocket knife and went around the black disk on the back side of the dial a few times gently lifting it up. It took about 5 rotations on each dial before they finally seperated but I didn't damage the dials at all doing that.

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I used a small flat head screwdriver with sort of rounded, blunt edges so not to damage anything.  I just lightly pryed up on the plastic.  There were no signs of damage and was a pretty successful endeavor.  Hoping to try some of the plastic washers soon.

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Do you think it would be better to use a matte finish or gloss finish contact paper?  I tried some glossy and the reflection can interfere with reading the dial under bright light.  I haven't tried matte yet.

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Pygon said:

Do you think it would be better to use a matte finish or gloss finish contact paper?  I tried some glossy and the reflection can interfere with reading the dial under bright light.  I haven't tried matte yet.

It beats nothing at all. I am sure at some point a plastic / high end dial will be available.

Hint, Hint 

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Great, just did all my dials, put contact on then ran a blade around them and the hole in the center, worked a treat

 

Cheers

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Pygon said:

Do you think it would be better to use a matte finish or gloss finish contact paper?  I tried some glossy and the reflection can interfere with reading the dial under bright light.  I haven't tried matte yet.

The important thing about using contact paper is that you use ACID-FREE contact paper. I've found that most of the clear glossy stuff is not acid-free when looking around at various stores.

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Checking online, it doesn't look like any of the usual suspect stores around here stock the Contact brand clear adhesive.

But the office stores have rolls of Duck clear laminate, which is acid free so it won't yellow with age.

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RedWilde said:

Checking online, it doesn't look like any of the usual suspect stores around here stock the Contact brand clear adhesive.

But the office stores have rolls of Duck clear laminate, which is acid free so it won't yellow with age.

Target and Michaels both sell the brand "Con-Tact" brand that is Acid Free - that's where I got my giant roll.

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Turns out, my google-fu failed me.  But was just out running some errands and found a roll at Home Depot (buried back in the kitchen cabinets of course).

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AncientAngel said:

It beats nothing at all. I am sure at some point a plastic / high end dial will be available.

Hint, Hint 

Do you know something we don't? If FFG are serious about this game they will have to release better tools. I think they will have missed the mark if they continue with the current non replaceable cardboard tools. At the moment if a dial is lost etc, the only way to replace it is to purchase a new expansion which still leaves you short a dial. Hopefully any speculation of wave 3 is in the form of durable tokens, dials, templates etc. Thats the kind of support players are looking for. They need to be sold as a seperate unit so that we are not doubling up when a particular piece is lost or damaged.

Yes I know other companies are making tokens of various quality but for me I'd like to keep it stock. Especially for any tourny requirements.

Thats my two cents

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Rowdy said:

AncientAngel said:

 

It beats nothing at all. I am sure at some point a plastic / high end dial will be available.

Hint, Hint 

 

 

Do you know something we don't? If FFG are serious about this game they will have to release better tools. I think they will have missed the mark if they continue with the current non replaceable cardboard tools. At the moment if a dial is lost etc, the only way to replace it is to purchase a new expansion which still leaves you short a dial. Hopefully any speculation of wave 3 is in the form of durable tokens, dials, templates etc. Thats the kind of support players are looking for. They need to be sold as a seperate unit so that we are not doubling up when a particular piece is lost or damaged.

Yes I know other companies are making tokens of various quality but for me I'd like to keep it stock. Especially for any tourny requirements.

Thats my two cents

The hint was aimed for Fantasy Flight. Knowing how fast this game has taken off I wouldnt doubt that some one is not in the process of designing one. And if they are not then they are missing on a good oppurnity.

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By the way, I've tried both glossy and matte contact paper for the dial fix.  Matte wins.  Dials spin smooth and less glare.

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