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My teeth hurt already, but I think I'm going to like it! (Stars of Iniquity)

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Stars of Iniquity is out, and while I've only skimmed it so far, boy is it crunchy. Building planets and systems is much more developed than I had expected, and the colony creation and management looks interesting. I do have a few players at the table that won't want to bother with any of this, but I also have a few that will eat this up… crunch, crunch, crunch.

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I'm eagerly looking forward to this book. Letting the players truly explore the unknown is good, and this will help a lot. Combined with the Koronus Bestiary, this should keep this part of the game covered. 

Since my group just finished killing off a Greater Demon of Tzeentch that had been accidentally summoned on Footfall (took them 4 sessions. It was quite the epic adventure), they're going to need something lighter to relax with, and exploration should be just the thing. 

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The section on Treasures - where you can add Archeotech, Xenotech, or Warp-Taint traits to existing equipment (from personal gear to Starship Components) is pretty awesome and allows for a great variety of results without requiring a seperate entry for each. I especially love the way the Xenotech options are split up for Ork/Eldar/Tau/Necron/Yu'Vath (but can be used for other xenos races taking similar tech paths).

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HappyDaze said:

Stars of Iniquity is out, and while I've only skimmed it so far, boy is it crunchy. Building planets and systems is much more developed than I had expected, and the colony creation and management looks interesting. I do have a few players at the table that won't want to bother with any of this, but I also have a few that will eat this up… crunch, crunch, crunch.

Ok, there's something amiss here. FFG are not releasing books beyond the US quick enough. Outer Reaches still hasn't seen a UK release and Tome of Blood has only just come out.

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Actually Navis Primer arrived in the EU about à month before the US, so it really seems to be on an individual release basis.

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TorogTarkdacil812 said:

Could you give us full list of contents (ideally with your comentary), those Treasures sounds fun.

I'll summarize since I can't stand typing out an entire ToC.

1) Make the system.

2) Make the planet(s) in the system that are most interesting.

3) Find the Profit Motive that gets the PCs to go there (the Treasures are one possiblilty).

4) Determine sites on the planet (or in orbit of it, etc.) where the adventure will take place.

5) Profit or Die!!!

Also about 20 pages on building colonies, a few pages of new gear, and finally a few mobile factions are written up (a pirate band, some explorators, an ork freebooter band, and some oddball kroot).

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HappyDaze said:

TorogTarkdacil812 said:

 

Could you give us full list of contents (ideally with your comentary), those Treasures sounds fun.

 

 

I'll summarize since I can't stand typing out an entire ToC.

1) Make the system.

2) Make the planet(s) in the system that are most interesting.

3) Find the Profit Motive that gets the PCs to go there (the Treasures are one possiblilty).

4) Determine sites on the planet (or in orbit of it, etc.) where the adventure will take place.

5) Profit or Die!!!

Also about 20 pages on building colonies, a few pages of new gear, and finally a few mobile factions are written up (a pirate band, some explorators, an ork freebooter band, and some oddball kroot).

That souds awesome, **** u!  Now I gotta order it! (shucks…)

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Berhagen said:

Actually Navis Primer arrived in the EU about à month before the US, so it really seems to be on an individual release basis.

I don't know if that's true, but even so that's one book. Meanwhile we are still waiting for Outer Reaches as well.

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signoftheserpent said:

Berhagen said:

Actually Navis Primer arrived in the EU about à month before the US, so it really seems to be on an individual release basis.

I don't know if that's true, but even so that's one book. Meanwhile we are still waiting for Outer Reaches as well.
No reason for the skepticism - it's true. If you're consistently having problems getting the products, consider using a different market (or move). Complaining here certainly can't help as it's not something FFG can control once it's out of their warehouses.

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Are there any alternate career ranks and character options in the book?

And if so, may I ask you to waste a moment of your valuable time and inquire as to what these may be, and if it's not entirely clear, explain what they are? It would be much appreciated.

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Fgdsfg said:

Are there any alternate career ranks and character options in the book?

And if so, may I ask you to waste a moment of your valuable time and inquire as to what these may be, and if it's not entirely clear, explain what they are? It would be much appreciated.

No.

This is almost entirely a GM-aimed book. The intent is to give the pieces needed to craft adventures - sort of a random adventure generator tied into the random system/planet generator.  Of course, you can skip the random and just make selections if you like.

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HappyDaze said:

Fgdsfg said:

 

Are there any alternate career ranks and character options in the book?

And if so, may I ask you to waste a moment of your valuable time and inquire as to what these may be, and if it's not entirely clear, explain what they are? It would be much appreciated.

 

 

No.

This is almost entirely a GM-aimed book. The intent is to give the pieces needed to craft adventures - sort of a random adventure generator tied into the random system/planet generator.  Of course, you can skip the random and just make selections if you like.

Awww, that makes me a bit sad to hear. I was hoping on some Reaver/Raider/Fringe love. Oh well. Thanks anyway. :)

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So far, One of the Crunchiest supplements put out yet. Right up there with the Inquisitors handbook and Into the Storm. Good job FFG! I do like Happydaze suggestion of a computer based system/world generator. Any takers?

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HappyDaze said:

signoftheserpent said:

Berhagen said:

 

Actually Navis Primer arrived in the EU about à month before the US, so it really seems to be on an individual release basis.

 

I don't know if that's true, but even so that's one book. Meanwhile we are still waiting for Outer Reaches as well.

 

No reason for the skepticism - it's true. If you're consistently having problems getting the products, consider using a different market (or move). Complaining here certainly can't help as it's not something FFG can control once it's out of their warehouses.

 

Oh dear. Fanboy time again.

Clearly you don't understand any of this, so let me explain.

Some of FFG's products have not appeared in the UK. They have not been listed as available by the distributor, Esdevium. If they don't list it, shops can't order it. That's how it works. The fault then lies with FFG since they shop to the distributor. If it's not listed it's because FFG has a particular problem with those books.

I didn't say i consistently had problems. I said there are some books that have yet to become available. I'm afraid I can't help you if you don't bother to do me the courtesy of reading what has been written.

Suggesting I move is quite ridiculous, do you seriously think someone is going to emigrate to the US just to get access to a roleplaying book?

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I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm currently sitting with the book in front of me, bought in Norway from a Norwegian retailer. This is mere days after the book's first appearances in the US, so if the UK hasn't got it yet, something is very different in how books are sent there. 

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signoftheserpent said:

HappyDaze said:

signoftheserpent said:

Berhagen said:

 

Actually Navis Primer arrived in the EU about à month before the US, so it really seems to be on an individual release basis.

 

I don't know if that's true, but even so that's one book. Meanwhile we are still waiting for Outer Reaches as well.

 

No reason for the skepticism - it's true. If you're consistently having problems getting the products, consider using a different market (or move). Complaining here certainly can't help as it's not something FFG can control once it's out of their warehouses.

 

Oh dear. Fanboy time again.

Clearly you don't understand any of this, so let me explain.

Some of FFG's products have not appeared in the UK. They have not been listed as available by the distributor, Esdevium. If they don't list it, shops can't order it. That's how it works. The fault then lies with FFG since they shop to the distributor. If it's not listed it's because FFG has a particular problem with those books.

I didn't say i consistently had problems. I said there are some books that have yet to become available. I'm afraid I can't help you if you don't bother to do me the courtesy of reading what has been written.

Suggesting I move is quite ridiculous, do you seriously think someone is going to emigrate to the US just to get access to a roleplaying book?

LOL got to love people with no reasoning in thier head. Yeah emmigration for rpg access is kind of rediculous. Personally I stopped buying hard copies of the books last year, and have gone entirely PDF. Ive never tried but I would assume you could get them that way regardless of location. I highly reccomend it, as I have my whole 40k library on my phone and can prep adventures anywhere im at.

Thinking about another thread, I wonder if any pdf readers out there can auto translate the text for those wanting books in other languages. I know google can auto translate web pages, so I wonder if the pdf readers can too.

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Cryhavok said:

signoftheserpent said:

HappyDaze said:

signoftheserpent said:

 

Berhagen said:

 

Actually Navis Primer arrived in the EU about à month before the US, so it really seems to be on an individual release basis.

 

I don't know if that's true, but even so that's one book. Meanwhile we are still waiting for Outer Reaches as well.

 

No reason for the skepticism - it's true. If you're consistently having problems getting the products, consider using a different market (or move). Complaining here certainly can't help as it's not something FFG can control once it's out of their warehouses.

 

 

Oh dear. Fanboy time again.

Clearly you don't understand any of this, so let me explain.

Some of FFG's products have not appeared in the UK. They have not been listed as available by the distributor, Esdevium. If they don't list it, shops can't order it. That's how it works. The fault then lies with FFG since they shop to the distributor. If it's not listed it's because FFG has a particular problem with those books.

I didn't say i consistently had problems. I said there are some books that have yet to become available. I'm afraid I can't help you if you don't bother to do me the courtesy of reading what has been written.

Suggesting I move is quite ridiculous, do you seriously think someone is going to emigrate to the US just to get access to a roleplaying book?

LOL got to love people with no reasoning in thier head. Yeah emmigration for rpg access is kind of rediculous. Personally I stopped buying hard copies of the books last year, and have gone entirely PDF. Ive never tried but I would assume you could get them that way regardless of location. I highly reccomend it, as I have my whole 40k library on my phone and can prep adventures anywhere im at.

 

Thinking about another thread, I wonder if any pdf readers out there can auto translate the text for those wanting books in other languages. I know google can auto translate web pages, so I wonder if the pdf readers can too.

Some people don't want .pdfs, which I fully understand. If I could afford it, I would definitely buy all the books hardcover, and if I was planning to buy the hardcover, why should I shell out extra to have it as .pdf?

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Cryhavok said:

LOL got to love people with no reasoning in thier head. Yeah emmigration for rpg access is kind of rediculous. Personally I stopped buying hard copies of the books last year, and have gone entirely PDF. Ive never tried but I would assume you could get them that way regardless of location. I highly reccomend it, as I have my whole 40k library on my phone and can prep adventures anywhere im at.

 

Thinking about another thread, I wonder if any pdf readers out there can auto translate the text for those wanting books in other languages. I know google can auto translate web pages, so I wonder if the pdf readers can too.

Why are you mentioning pdf's?

PDF is no use to me at all.

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signoftheserpent said:

Oh dear. Fanboy time again.

Clearly you don't understand any of this, so let me explain.

Some of FFG's products have not appeared in the UK. They have not been listed as available by the distributor, Esdevium. If they don't list it, shops can't order it. That's how it works. The fault then lies with FFG since they shop to the distributor. If it's not listed it's because FFG has a particular problem with those books.

I didn't say i consistently had problems. I said there are some books that have yet to become available. I'm afraid I can't help you if you don't bother to do me the courtesy of reading what has been written.

Suggesting I move is quite ridiculous, do you seriously think someone is going to emigrate to the US just to get access to a roleplaying book?

 

Now you know how we in the USA feel about ordering from Forge World.

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signoftheserpent said:

HappyDaze said:

signoftheserpent said:

Berhagen said:

 

Actually Navis Primer arrived in the EU about à month before the US, so it really seems to be on an individual release basis.

 

I don't know if that's true, but even so that's one book. Meanwhile we are still waiting for Outer Reaches as well.

 

No reason for the skepticism - it's true. If you're consistently having problems getting the products, consider using a different market (or move). Complaining here certainly can't help as it's not something FFG can control once it's out of their warehouses.

 

Oh dear. Fanboy time again.

Clearly you don't understand any of this, so let me explain.

Some of FFG's products have not appeared in the UK. They have not been listed as available by the distributor, Esdevium. If they don't list it, shops can't order it. That's how it works. The fault then lies with FFG since they shop to the distributor. If it's not listed it's because FFG has a particular problem with those books.

I didn't say i consistently had problems. I said there are some books that have yet to become available. I'm afraid I can't help you if you don't bother to do me the courtesy of reading what has been written.

Suggesting I move is quite ridiculous, do you seriously think someone is going to emigrate to the US just to get access to a roleplaying book?

Fanboi? Not sure where you get that idea from. I'm not even sure what your definition is…As for moving, that was a joke. You seem to take this way too seriously, so it's. Not surprising you didn't get it.As for you "helping me" I really think you must be joking now. I don't need anything from you, and its quite apparent that I can't help you with your case of hurt.

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signoftheserpent said:

Cryhavok said:

LOL got to love people with no reasoning in thier head. Yeah emmigration for rpg access is kind of rediculous. Personally I stopped buying hard copies of the books last year, and have gone entirely PDF. Ive never tried but I would assume you could get them that way regardless of location. I highly reccomend it, as I have my whole 40k library on my phone and can prep adventures anywhere im at.

 

Thinking about another thread, I wonder if any pdf readers out there can auto translate the text for those wanting books in other languages. I know google can auto translate web pages, so I wonder if the pdf readers can too.

Why are you mentioning pdf's?

PDF is no use to me at all.

Fgdsfg said:

Cryhavok said:

signoftheserpent said:

HappyDaze said:

signoftheserpent said:

 

Berhagen said:

 

Actually Navis Primer arrived in the EU about à month before the US, so it really seems to be on an individual release basis.

 

I don't know if that's true, but even so that's one book. Meanwhile we are still waiting for Outer Reaches as well.

 

No reason for the skepticism - it's true. If you're consistently having problems getting the products, consider using a different market (or move). Complaining here certainly can't help as it's not something FFG can control once it's out of their warehouses.

 

 

Oh dear. Fanboy time again.

Clearly you don't understand any of this, so let me explain.

Some of FFG's products have not appeared in the UK. They have not been listed as available by the distributor, Esdevium. If they don't list it, shops can't order it. That's how it works. The fault then lies with FFG since they shop to the distributor. If it's not listed it's because FFG has a particular problem with those books.

I didn't say i consistently had problems. I said there are some books that have yet to become available. I'm afraid I can't help you if you don't bother to do me the courtesy of reading what has been written.

Suggesting I move is quite ridiculous, do you seriously think someone is going to emigrate to the US just to get access to a roleplaying book?

LOL got to love people with no reasoning in thier head. Yeah emmigration for rpg access is kind of rediculous. Personally I stopped buying hard copies of the books last year, and have gone entirely PDF. Ive never tried but I would assume you could get them that way regardless of location. I highly reccomend it, as I have my whole 40k library on my phone and can prep adventures anywhere im at.

 

Thinking about another thread, I wonder if any pdf readers out there can auto translate the text for those wanting books in other languages. I know google can auto translate web pages, so I wonder if the pdf readers can too.

Some people don't want .pdfs, which I fully understand. If I could afford it, I would definitely buy all the books hardcover, and if I was planning to buy the hardcover, why should I shell out extra to have it as .pdf?
I can understand wanting to stick with one medium. My suggestion was to get you the information now as opposed to whenever FFG fixes stuff so they can sell you the hard copy. I was thinking getting the information for actual use would be a good idea. Im sorry you find it a useless option. Good luck to you both.

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PDF would be fine enough for me - I prefer english PDFs for reference (and earlier release), then buy the translated german hardcovers once they come out - usually an ice age or two later.

Buuut… is it, just me, or is SoI actually not even available as a PDF? o.O

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Not yet maybe in a couple of weeks it takes about a month from release to get to PDF that is what the standard seems to be.

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