Quick Question about timing.

[LifeKnight 0]

A Runner with no cards in his hand steals an agenda from Jinteki

The Agenda would win him the game

The Jinteki Identity damage would flatline him

Which takes precedence?

[radiskull 39]

 

If the Runner steals an agenda from Jinteki using the core set

identity, but has no cards in hand, who wins? 

 

The Runner wins the game. Whenever a player has 7 or more

agenda points in his score area, the game immediately ends. The

game ending takes precedence over any conditional ability that

triggers when an agenda is stolen. 

 

From the FAQ.

[Saturnine 47]

LifeKnight said:

A Runner with no cards in his hand steals an agenda from Jinteki

The Agenda would win him the game

The Jinteki Identity damage would flatline him

Which takes precedence?

This exact question is covered in the FAQ document (available in the support section here on the website). The answer is that the game ends immediately when the runner scores 7 or more points. Because the damage is a reaction to the runner scoring an agenda, it happens after the runner does so, and in the case of the runner reaching his victory condition, the damage never gets to be applied.

[radiskull 39]

It is as yet unclear how to handle it in the following tournament situation:

Game 1 - Corp wins, 7-4.

Game 2- The winning player, now playing runner, steals his/her 5th agenda point with no cards in hand.  Absent any flatline, the match is over and the runner has won.  Does the runner win the match 6-0? Or does the corp win the second game?

[Saturnine 47]

radiskull said:

 

It is as yet unclear how to handle it in the following tournament situation:

Game 1 - Corp wins, 7-4.

Game 2- The winning player, now playing runner, steals his/her 5th agenda point with no cards in hand.  Absent any flatline, the match is over and the runner has won.  Does the runner win the match 6-0? Or does the corp win the second game?

 

 

Seems straight-forward to me. The second game is won by the corp. The match ends with the regular end of the second game (or time called). Just because players tend to end the game if the match result is already clear doesn't mean the game should end, so you don't get to ignore the corp winning the second game.

[Khudzlin 734]

The corp wins the game 7-5 (actually 10-5, since a victory by any means gives 10 points rather than 7). So this means the player who was runner in the second game (and corp in the first) gets 10 + 5 = 15 match points and the other player gets 4 + 10 = 14 match points. The result is a victory for the flatlined runner, who gets 4 prestige points while his opponent gets 2.