Sadric 0 Posted November 11, 2012 After reading the topic on Station Eismette/Deranged Diva javascript:void(0);/*1352624317053*/ I think about claret knight The Claret Knight Her Sworn Champion Type: Character Faction: Neutral Cost: 3 Skill: 1 Icons: (T)©(A)(I) Game Text: Servitor. Immune to triggered effects.Response: After a Tactic card is played, ready The Claret Knight. Set: SoK Number: 38 Illustrator: Bryce Cook He is immune to triggered effects, so it is also immune to his own triggered effect. He will ever use his response? There is something I miss or there is a error in the concept of the card? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dboeren1 294 Posted November 11, 2012 I don't think a Response is a triggered effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhaelen 98 Posted November 12, 2012 dboeren said: I don't think a Response is a triggered effect. Of course it is. Even a Forced Response is (although it's not a player triggered effect). In other words: Claret Knight requires errata. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HilariousPete 4 Posted November 12, 2012 I see it the same way as jhaelen. Either the Claret Knight needs and erratum, or the section in the FAQ about immunity needs to be changed to exclude that cards can be immune against their own effects. Perhaps you should send a short note to Damon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.Zephyr. 1 Posted November 12, 2012 Looks like a small fail. (or i dont know something) I really think cards should have design comments on designers intentions posted online, mostly to explain to new players some details of how a given card work in some situations, but it would also help experienced players with some cards with non-standard wording. Maybe some extrapolation of golden rule could be used to explain this Responce is more important than immunity, but I think next FAQ should have a note on this interaction. Maybe a small errata. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HilariousPete 4 Posted November 18, 2012 Hi Sadric, did you send a rules question to Damon? I'm asking because it would be good to know if immunity also applies to a card's own effects (e.g. Dr. Carson wouldn't work with Eismitte in play, I believe) and I'm thinking about a thematic Explorers (M.U.) + Elder Things deck, with Reawakened and Reckless Elder Things being protected by Eismitte before themselves :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danach82 19 Posted November 19, 2012 Just fyi, this is how it is in AGoT, so maybe there was a little bit of cross-over haze for Damon on this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HilariousPete 4 Posted November 20, 2012 You were right Danigral, it's the same as in AGoT. Q+A from Damon Stone: Q: Is the Claret Knight's Response ever usable? (It's a triggered effect, and he's immune to such effects due to his passive ability. Erratum?) A: A card can never be immune to its own effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites