tuggs 0 Posted February 16, 2009 I've been toying with the idea of making a viable E. Honda deck for quite some time. With the goodies from set 11, I think I might have a decent shot. Typical Water tank tricks apply. I ran this deck yesterday, and it fared well, but I think it could use a little tweaking: 1 x ::E. Honda:: Attacks: 8 2 x Feline Spike 7/1 +1L 2 x Sakura's Shinku Hadoken 4/3 +1M 4 x Omnidirectional Cluster Bomb 5/3 +1M Foundations: 35 2 x Hybrid Style 2/4 +2M 3 x Familial Loyalty +2M 3 x Rapid Ares Style +1M 3 x Battle Prowess 1/4 4 x Chester's Backing 4/6 +1M 4 x Strife's Patronage 2/5 +0H 4 x Program Malfunction 3/5 +1M 4 x Chinese Boxing 3/4 +3M 4 x The Angel of Evening 2/5 +2L 4 x Empire's Ruin 1/5 +2M Actions: 12 3 x Your Mind is Known to Me 3/5 +3M 3 x Rejection 3/5 +1L 3 x Tag Along 5/4 3 x Kung-Fu Training 2/5 +1M Assets: 4 4 x Olcadan's Mentoring 0/6 +0L Sideboard: 8 1 x Tag Along 5/4 1x Kung-Fu Training 2/5 +1M 1 x Rejection 3/5 +1L 1 x ::Lizardman:: 1 x Familial Loyalty 2/5 +2M 1 x Hybrid Style 2/4 +2M 2 x Sakura's Shinku Hadoken 4/3 +1M Key cards/combos: Your Mind is Known to Me: This is a no-brainer. With E. Honda's static ability, this becomes a robo-block. Hand peek never hurts, either. If your opponent throws something scary at you that's off-center, simply use Rejection, then recur with Hybrid Style, so you can keep your card pool clean. Hybrid Style: Zero points for originality on this one, but it's less annoying than the Gorgeous Team version you'll find in Sakura and Seong Mi-Na (see above.) Also allows you to pull Your Mind is Known to Me back into your hand after a reversal or off-center attack. The Angel of Evening: Often overshadowed by its counterpart (Shooting Capoera), this baby is the mortar in the Great Wall of Honda. Being able to ready Chinese Boxing makes your opponent think twice. Strife's Patronage: Once again, hand peek is sweet. Also assures you that you'll be able to block almost anything. It's a very simple deck, and as such, it has several Achilles heels. CC Hax is brutal to the sumo wrestler, and discard of any kind can slow things down to a crawl. Kill-wise, it is heavily reliant (read: entirely dependent) on Feline Spike, and against another tank, it runs the risk of decking out. Suggestions are definitely welcome- I want to fine-tune this deck so it can address at least one of its glaring deficiencies. Thanks in advance. -Tuggs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Makingsenseofus 0 Posted February 16, 2009 If Hax is a big problem Ayame's scarf could help Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trane2 0 Posted February 16, 2009 since rejection looping is so important, i would max out on rejection and hybid style. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuggs 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Both taken under advisement. Man, I wish I could edit my previous post... I'm okay with making the deck run a little bit over a lean 59 + character, but I don't know if I'll need 4 x Hybrid Style. (I'll try it with three copies, and max out my Rejections for the time being.) Maindecking both of these frees up two sideboard slots, and if I ditch the remaining Familial Loyalty and ::Lizardman::, I'll have room for a full playset of Ayame's Scarf. Thanks for the feedback. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da_ghetto_gamer 0 Posted February 16, 2009 you can just go to report to mods in your previous post and instead of posting just go to the web adress and change reportar to editar and it will let you edit your post. Heres the actual link you would use: http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_editar.asp?efid=27&efcid=5&efidt=68032&efidm=68032 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tader Salad 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Omg, since -2 block sakura is no longer legal I was looking for some character interaction with Your Mind is Known to Me. Lets have babies E. Honda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuggs 0 Posted February 16, 2009 (What's up with that white block up there?) I was going to say that I'm not averse to making the deck run slightly over 59 + character. This really isn't much of an issue, since milling out against another tank is a distinct possibility. By maindecking a fourth Rejection and a third Hybrid Style, I'll free up two sideboard slots. With that in mind, I can eliminate 1x ::Lizardman:: and 1x Familial Loyalty from the sideboard, and replace them with 4x Ayame's Scarf. One weak spot taken care of. Thanks, guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuggs 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Tader Salad said: Omg, since -2 block sakura is no longer legal I was looking for some character interaction with Your Mind is Known to Me. Lets have babies E. Honda. *Sigh* "I'll show you mine if you show me yours." I'm thankful that I've only faced one promo Sakura deck. Although nowhere near the same calibre, E. Honda does have that nifty damage redux ability. With Your Mind is Known to Me, you could conceivably make a pretty aggressive build, and then rely on the robo-defense to keep you alive. That card creates some serious hand advantage with our sumo friend. I originally wanted to run a full playset, but there were already 12 actions in the first build, and I was more concerned with having enough control pieces on the board. Because there are so few attacks, it's slow as molasses... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quarzark 0 Posted February 17, 2009 High Plasma Beam is great in Honda, and tri-symbols. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarcoPulleaux 0 Posted February 17, 2009 Wow, Your Mind is Known to Me actually has use! And what a use it has. Props for originality, and it certainly seems viable. I think your attack line-up ought to look more like 4 Plasmas and 3 to 4 Felines, if possibe. Unfortunately, for so long as UFS has Feline, winning games is a lot more skillful, and relies primarily on a well-placed Feline, really. Great job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuggs 0 Posted February 17, 2009 High Plasma Beam was definitely overlooked when I was constructing this deck. I opted to go with Omnidirectional Cluster Bomb because it fuels Feline Spike, and can serve as an additional control piece, if necessary. I might try switching out 2x Sakura's Shinku Hadoken in favor of the Fweem. My biggest concern is making sure it hits. Since I'm not running very many attacks, I'm hesitant to put in cards like Mind Over Matter. Any suggestions? If I had a full playset of Feline Spike, they would probably be in there. I find it amusing that Concealed Shallow Swipe was banned because it encouraged incredibly controlling decks, and was essentially the kill condition in every deck it was in... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quarzark 0 Posted February 17, 2009 well the nice thing is if you have them, you can just throw in 4x Lord of the Makai pretty easily. Lots of Order/Water split cards. If you don't like that, Natural Leader is a one shot spike fuel card like Omni. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites