ktom 598 Posted June 22, 2012 Bomb said: What do you think is an "effect of winning the challenge"? I just don't understand what else might be an "effect" to you.He is arguing that being able to meet the play restriction on something like Price of War ("after you win a military challenge") is an effect of winning the challenge - as opposed to a requirement created by the card itself. So, since "military claim" is changed to "power claim" by Double Bluff, your ability to say "I won a military challenge" is also changed to "I won a power challenge." Essentially, he is saying your status as "winner/loser of X challenge" is an effect of the challenge itself. And, more to the point, he is saying that the "X" in that is determined by the challenge resolution, not by its initiation. I think he has convinced himself that because Double Bluff says "effect of winning the challenge" instead of "claim effect" that the two terms must mean different things. Game context, timing construction, and standard English argue against it, but whatcha gonna do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
