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yagyu said:

Price is a huge concern for even hard core gamers like myself in this day and age. When u come down to it I need to budget and cut out games that i love LESS then ones that I just cant live without. So if just doing a brief comparison to WOW mini's, guessing the X-wing will be similar or worse price wise. then

I have to say I may not make it beyond the core set and one or possibly two boosters. Knowing that id have to cut X-wing entirely and focus on the one im really excited about the Star Wars LCG. Im also an old Star wars Mini's fan and want to see a Land Based Mini Star Wars game from FFG. So ill probably hold out until they have that.

So that pretty much means the odds of me being able to afford and therefore really get into X-wing are very low to none.

I think many ppl are in the same boat as me and thus unless they lower the cost or give us more bang for our buck its just not equitable.

I feel the same way. Parakitor and I have talked about this at length, and it seems best if he collects X-wing and I collect the LCG, then we can play when we get together. Only problem, is that's kinda hard when we live on opposite sides of the country. Even still, I'm considering getting the starter set of each at least. Then if I get some extra money, maybe I can get one or two extra ships. But like was mentioned above, I may as well focus on filling out my WotC Minis collection instead of diverting to X-wing. I'll just have to wait and see how things go next year.

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Exactly dude, what end do u live on im oregon lol. But yeah dont get me wrong, i really hope the FFG mini's do well and expand into land based stuff and more. Its just that yeah for the price they have stated for 3 miniatures, its just seems to be too much. If they added a couple more mini's i think it might feel a bit more like im being compensated if i spent the $40 or so bucks on it. But yeah from the way things look now its just financially smarter for myself and most likely others to side with either the mini's or the cards.

 

Off topic i do wish they had board game license. That would definitely make me eat romain noodles everynight just to buy FFG's awesome star wars board games lol

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TK4334 said:

 

I really liked the Game but it is death now .. :/

 

 

 

I totally disagree with this - WotC’s game cannot be dead, especially if you mainly player, than collector. The Game is now in a new age – “Virtual Era”, where many useless figs gain the “new life”. I play this game from its beginning, have thousands of miniatures and still have a big portion of skepticism about this new game from FFG, mainly because we still don’t have enough information about the game. In the first post I mentioned about another interesting Star Wars game – SW Pocketmodel TCG, which demo also contain one X-Wing and two TIE Fighters, but when the game starts, we receive 80+ other ships. And as we see now in “X-Wing” starter we have only TWO type of ships and only THREE figs totally. If the next set for this game is contain two Y-Wings and one TIE Interceptor… Imagine – if WotC’s starter for SW Miniatures contain two stormies and one rebel trooper, and we don’t have ANY boosters or packs in “horizon”, only something like “next month we you can add Darth Vader and Luke in your collection for this greatest game ever…” :D Regardless how genius is FFG in game design, playing with starter, which contain only three figs, without any other potential “additions” (I need Stardestroyers, Venators, Acclamators, or even Death Star :D ) can’t give us many hours of fan. I REALLY hope to see with “X-Wing” starter something like in SW The Card Game’s “Force Packs” with A-Wng, B-Wing, Vader’s TIE Advanced etc… But now, what we have is only our hope… Hope that FFG do it RIGHTLY!!! ;)

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I don't know if you guys have ever played Wings of War, but the vibe I'm getting is that "X-Wing" will be much more similar to WoW than WotC's SSB.  I completely understand that you don't want to give up SSB; it is a fun game, and you have invested a lot in it.  Keep playing it, by all means!  (I still play the old Star Fleet Battles, with counters, even!).

If you are feeling a void from the absence of SSB, I'm not sure X-Wing will fill it...

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Oh no, we get that vibe too. There's a buncha threads and posts about it. Might even be a GOOD thing; the WotC SSB rules sucked, and a lot of us felt like they tried to cover too much ground with one game. The big questions for X-wing are:

1. What's the minis size (and are they roughly in scale with one another)?

2. What's the plan for more ships? How and whan will they be released?

3. Are the ships customizable, with like templates or something?

4. Is there a game map, or is this supposed to look good on the woodgrain of my dining-room table?

5. How much is this gonna flippin' cost?

So yeah, we get it. It isn't SSB. But we still don't have too many answers - and of late, NO project support or even an online presence. We got these boards, and it's like, "go outside and play." Until 2012.

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IG-58 said:

Oh no, we get that vibe too. There's a buncha threads and posts about it. Might even be a GOOD thing; the WotC SSB rules sucked, and a lot of us felt like they tried to cover too much ground with one game. The big questions for X-wing are:

1. What's the minis size (and are they roughly in scale with one another)?

2. What's the plan for more ships? How and whan will they be released?

3. Are the ships customizable, with like templates or something?

4. Is there a game map, or is this supposed to look good on the woodgrain of my dining-room table?

5. How much is this gonna flippin' cost?

So yeah, we get it. It isn't SSB. But we still don't have too many answers - and of late, NO project support or even an online presence. We got these boards, and it's like, "go outside and play." Until 2012.

Yeah, those are all the questions on MY mind too.  It may be that FFG doesn't know the answers to many of these questions yet, but I'd like some news, anything really.

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Honestly, I wouldn't really think that we're going to be seeing much in the way of previews or press releases until much closer to Christmas.

FFG has only just got the license, and getting a game out is a complex process - which can be made even more complex if bad information is flying around the web.

That they demoed the game at GenCon at all was a great boon. (I'd love to hear more from those who were lucky enough to play there!)

I short: I can wait - I know I'm going to love the game.

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 Does anyone know how the model quality stacks up against Star Trek: Fleet Captains? ..avoiding any of the inane SW vs ST arguments....  that game clocks in at $100 and has 24 minis(albeit unpainted)

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 I'm reviving this thread because I'm interested in hearing everyone's opinions now that the price has been announced. Are we disappointed? Are we pleased? Is it worth it? Please share your thoughts.

Basically, I was fine with it, but when I shared the news with my wife, she was way less than enthused. I think having collected WotC SWMinis recently, she was expecting a pack of minis, not one ship per expansion. Her disappoint caught me off guard and made me question the price all over again. But you can't argue with the fact that there are no rares. I mean, we can all go out and purchase Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader whenever we're ready.

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 I probably won't be hooking up with any strangers to play this game, it'll likely just be me and my son - so, that means I'll be the one buying all the ships. For that reason, I'm gonna go really slow and make sure we're having a lot of fun with the game before buying in too heavily.

Ha… I can already picture the 'scenarios' in the rulebook: "okay, grab six Y-wings and four X-wings. Now, the Imperial player grabs 8 TIEs and 3 TIE Advanceds. All set? Great! Now, place your ships on…" lengua.gif

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I play Wings of War a lot, and I have to say that it's a lot more fun when one player controls one ship, but I plan on playing it with fewer players and more fighters if I have to :D.

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Definitely taking this one slow, too. I preordered the starter set back in January, so I might get one or two of the expansions straight off if the game is decent, but I'm going to have to think long and hard before I buy into this too much. Which is going to be novel, as usually I see the words "star wars" and just throw my money at them. It just seems like a lot of money for not very much product. I'm already mid-cycle of two LCGs, poised to start another, and am saving up for the Baratheon expansion for BoW, so this'll have to be really good to warrant the expense…

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The informational desert we've been experiencing has really soured me on this venture. For a while, I was starting to think FFG had actually lost the license and was just refusing to announce it! Now, we finally have updates, and that's good - but we still don't know all that much.

I'm sure I'll have to buy the Starter at least; I mean, how can you be a Star Wars geek, a gaming fan AND a miniatures nut and not buy a Starter??! For the rulebook even if for no other reason. But after that well, all bets are off. We'll just have to see.

How much IS the thing supposed to retail for now, anyway?

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Okay, just answered my own question: I explored Miniatures Market, an online retailer (not the only viable one certainly, but a good one), and they list the game as "preorder," with the following prices:

Starter: $39.95 retail, $25.97 their (at least preorder) price.

Expansion craft: $14.95 retail, $9.72 their price.

Spare dice set: $7.95 retail, $5.17 their price.

So, those prices lessen the Pain Factor somewhat. Those are rational, doable. Might have to snag me a Y-Wing too.

Okay, so mild twinge of excitement….

EDIT: LESS good news, however, after a Google search for misc. preorders, is that two sites placed the Release Date as July 2012. llorando.gif

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 Hmm… those MM prices are pretty good, and I've had several good experiences with them.

As for the game coming out in July… I'm probably gonna go see Prometheus about 30 times in June, so my wallet could use the break! gran_risa.gif

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Blast! I was keeping the Miniature Market values to myself but the cat's out of the bag. I suppose there's no real threat of them getting sold out on the preorders, though, is there. Currently I'm hoping - not planning, hoping - to spend $115 at MM to get 3 X-wings, 3 Y-wings, 5 TIE Fighters, 1 TIE Advanced, and the extra dice. That will give me two flight groups for each team..

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 The official line is release in Q2… Isn't July Q3 (not that things like release schedules can't change, but the thing is reported to be at the printers supposedly).

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Budgernaut said:

Blast! I was keeping the Miniature Market values to myself but the cat's out of the bag. I suppose there's no real threat of them getting sold out on the preorders, though, is there. Currently I'm hoping - not planning, hoping - to spend $115 at MM to get 3 X-wings, 3 Y-wings, 5 TIE Fighters, 1 TIE Advanced, and the extra dice. That will give me two flight groups for each team..

 

Hah! I already have a pre-order in with them for 4 basic sets, 1 expansion X-Wing and TIE (for the new pilots), 4 TIE Advanced and 5 Y-Wings. I hope this game doesn't suck, though it doesn't appear to. Besides, if the models are really as good as they look, I can always use them with Star Warriors or Star Wars Full Thrust or something… ;)

The MM site shows how many they have on pre-order, though I don't think it adjusts when customers pre-order.

 

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 I just placed an order for one starter, one of each expansion, and one dice pack. Even at $38.95 regular mail shipping to the Great White North, that's still $15 cheaper than I'd get it all for list price in the shops here. But sometimes I'm real jealous of you American folks. gui%C3%B1o.gif

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 Way to be, I.J.! I should be getting some birthday money this month and will probably preorder as soon as I know how much money I'll get. I'm so looking forward to it!

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Greetings everyone, New to this forum (my very first post here), and glad to be getting a new SW game.  There are some video links previewing the game over at boardgamegeek.com in case you haven't seen them (from GenCon last year… not sure if it ended up exactly the same in the end).  

boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/103885/star-wars-x-wing

You can also buy the starter for about $26 at miniaturemarket.com, which doesn't seem too bad.  The expansions are also less, but still expensive for one ship and a few cards (about $10). I just ordered 2 starters, and 1 of each expansion to get more ships, dice, and game pieces for a bit less money.  Very excited to give the game a try. 

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IG-58 said:

EDIT: LESS good news, however, after a Google search for misc. preorders, is that two sites placed the Release Date as July 2012. llorando.gif

My online game store of choice here in the UK, 13th floor, has had the core set as coming out in July 2012 for a good two months now, maybe longer, so I don't know how accurate that is. Especially when the same store has the LCG as coming in August 2012.

I'm hoping it'll be sooner just because I really need to know if this game is worth getting all the extra bits!

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