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Peacekeeper_b said:

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Grand Inquisitor Fulminarex said:

 

Do you really think civilians are innocent when they run the war factories and support their soldiers? Give me a break.

 

 

 

With this incredibly stupid discourse you justify the 9/11 attack then...

 

 

Not really as we were not actively at war against anyone. We were attacked by the Japanese, we retaliated. You may try to use that to explain or rationalize the 9/11 attacks but it wont really work.

I mean, all you come off as is someone who hates the USA. And you are allowed to.

Unlike the poor people who lived in Nazi Germany, Facist Italy, Imperial Japan and Soviet Russia. 

 

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Grand Inquisitor Fulminarex said:

You should follow the retardation that is blkdymnd. He is a sniveling little wretch. If you want true offish entertainment, go look at his posts. He is sad.

You seem a bit out of line on this. All he did was ask a simple question and you went off.

I guess none of my business, but you two should argue privately.

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I agree. 

In another attempt to keep the thread on target:

The bulldozer blade might help with assaults, but everywhere that walker goes is going to be leveled.  There will literally be a path of destruction leading right up to the walker.  I just thought it would be better to have a dozer walked like the unofficial Axis one.

 

-Jeff

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Tagnator said:

 o k.. looking at the big joe soviet heavy walker made me even more confused! i tought soviet walkers were more like real walkers, but this is more a tank on legs like the allied ones! (ok big joe is on ski's)

From the product desciption:

Description
The “Big Joseph” has been the very first HEAVY VK powered machine ever developed by the Sino-Soviet engineers.
It was not a “walker” but it`s powerful propeller would allow it to ski over the frozen tundras that it was designed to patrol.

So like the Mickey it seems to be a stop gap measure until they could develop real mechs (like the KV47). What I would like to know is what is the Soviet advanced weapon technology going to be? The germans have developed Laser and the allies are using Phasers so I wonder what the SSU will have.

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Soviets will have big guns . . . REALLY BIG GUNS. gran_risa.gif Some might even call it naval guns mounted in walker chassis. But at this stage of the game I am only making a guess. Granted it is fuelled by sleep deprivation and a 12 hour weird war movie festival but it could happen.

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Peacekeeper_b said:

 

 

Not really as we were not actively at war against anyone. We were attacked by the Japanese, we retaliated. You may try to use that to explain or rationalize the 9/11 attacks but it wont really work.

I mean, all you come off as is someone who hates the USA. And you are allowed to.

 

 

 

Fact is I do not justify at all the 9/11 attacks, I said that civilians CANNOT be the object of attacks.

So the Hiroshima is the same war crime as is the 9/11 accident.

The arabs think US had seized them, and they retailiated murdering thousands of innocent civilians. US had to prepare themselves for the Cold War and they choose to kill and poison a nation. These are both crimes against humanity.

As depicted in the movie "9/11" US were behind the killing of a president in Chile putting in his place a fascist despot like Pinochet. So there is no "crusader" character in the US politcs (despite the genuine goodwill of its citizens).

In war no one is innocent. Dresda in another exemple of indiscriminate civilian slaughter that is no different to what happened to London.

Roosvelt would have never permitted the nuclear fire and would had listened to a part of the scientists of Project Manhattan  that said clearly the nuclear attacks were useless in that ending segment of the war. But is a my opinion and no one will ever know because the attacks were brought on by Truman that was a cruel man.

When Truman acted as cavalry officer during the Great War he was one of the officers that sent to death hundreds of HIS men the very same morning the war was finishing, just to conquer some dirty meters. And he said he hated so much the germans that he wanted to take every german child, cut their hands and kill their fathers in front of them. Not a soldier then, but a sadist.

There is an History Channel documentary that says that, I'm not creating anything.

When Pearl Harbor movie premiered it was met with hate because, the incredibly cheesy and mediocre screenplay aside,  its final sequence was a honey discourse full of rethorics about how good are the americans but nothing has been said about the genocide the US has committed in Japan.

I want to remember that US attacked Iraq with faked evidences about inexisting mass murder weapons (a thing that was immediately clear to anyone) and many Americans arrived to believe that Iraqis had commited the 9/11 attack. A thing parodied brilliantly on a "Family Guy" episode when they visit Ground Zero.

Last, I want to recall that US hired the nazis to bring them on the Moon and compete successfully with the Soviets during the Space Race.

There are not good and bad guys in a war like in a black and white palette, but there are shades of greys and Americans are the most inclined persons to forget that.

Obviously I am not a supporter of nazis or fascists, it must be clear.

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Katman said:

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The Fantasy Flight Games forums have been created as a meeting point for fans of the games we publish, a place where they can exchange ideas and opinions about these games and meet other people that share the same hobby.


It is not intended to be a way to contact FFG directly, nor to ask for rules clarification or support.

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Would it be too much to ask for the Political viewpoints both good or bad, right or left and correct or incorrect be taken to the APPROPRIATE political forum discussion group and allow this forum to return to its regularly scheduled fun discussion concerning models and a game.

I second that motion...

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