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how many crew in a Hellbore?

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If you mean the crew of the Eldar Hellbore class frigate then it is about  250 (based on the BFG designer's comment that each hit = 1500 crew for capital ships, and 500 for escorts for Imperial vessels and half that for Eldar; if I remember correctly).

Of course if you are talking about another Hellbore then no idea!

DW

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I believe Dugfromtheearth (cool name) may be referring to the old Epic scale super-heavy tunneller, am I right Dug? If that IS what you're talking about, I'm not entirely sure, forge world haven't got around to producing a technical readout for one yet.

For those not familiar with the vehicle, it was the largest of three classes of tunnelling transporters used to carry Imperial Guard troops underground. The smallest was the Termite, which has a crew capacity (from memory) of 10 men, the medium was the Mole, which (I think) carried 20 men, and the largest was the Hellbore, which carried an entire company.

The vehicles were used for sieges largely, digging under bastion walls and storming enemy fortresses or bunkers from the inside. They resemble ICBM carriers with huge rocket shaped tunnelling transporters (a bit like the robot ones from the Matrix) on top.

Gears of War 2 had a similar concept, tunnelling transporters, but likie so many other things, GW got there first.      

However, if you want to make up stats for one, I'd suggest starting with one of those massive Russian mobile ICBM carriers they had during the cold war and taking the crew sats from there - the tunneler's transporter is not so very different from an ICBM transporter.

As  for the tunneller itself, your guess is as good as mine - 3 crew? That sounds about right to me. An aiplane carrying 150m passengers would have about 3 crew, so that sounds about right.

Anyway, just a few thoughts. Hope that helps. Are you planning to use a Hellbore in one of your games, Dug?

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yes - a tunneller hellbore

I am working on a "world" - Twisix, Comet Mutatis.  It is a massive comet (still in the comet cluster of an uninhabitted solar system) with radioactive ore mixed in.  An attempt was made to mine the comet using hellbore a thousand years ago.  The transports no longer exist, but some of the hellbore still exist and are being used to tunnel through the ice.  Each hellbore is like its own little ship with a small colony living in the transport bay and a select crew actually manning the hellbore.

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Off hand, with out checking my stuff, I think it has a "live crew" of 30, plus servitors (40-50).  I can ask around on the NEtEpic list if you want a more definitive answer.

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Lightbringer2009 said:

I believe Dugfromtheearth (cool name) may be referring to the old Epic scale super-heavy tunneller, am I right Dug? If that IS what you're talking about, I'm not entirely sure, forge world haven't got around to producing a technical readout for one yet.

For those not familiar with the vehicle, it was the largest of three classes of tunnelling transporters used to carry Imperial Guard troops underground. The smallest was the Termite, which has a crew capacity (from memory) of 10 men, the medium was the Mole, which (I think) carried 20 men, and the largest was the Hellbore, which carried an entire company.

The vehicles were used for sieges largely, digging under bastion walls and storming enemy fortresses or bunkers from the inside. They resemble ICBM carriers with huge rocket shaped tunnelling transporters (a bit like the robot ones from the Matrix) on top.

Gears of War 2 had a similar concept, tunnelling transporters, but likie so many other things, GW got there first.      

Actually, Gerry Anderson got there first with Thunderbirds (the Mole was carried by Thunderbird 2, in (I believe) Pod 2). The main point still stands though- it has been done before.

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Alasseo said:

Lightbringer2009 said:

 

I believe Dugfromtheearth (cool name) may be referring to the old Epic scale super-heavy tunneller, am I right Dug? If that IS what you're talking about, I'm not entirely sure, forge world haven't got around to producing a technical readout for one yet.

For those not familiar with the vehicle, it was the largest of three classes of tunnelling transporters used to carry Imperial Guard troops underground. The smallest was the Termite, which has a crew capacity (from memory) of 10 men, the medium was the Mole, which (I think) carried 20 men, and the largest was the Hellbore, which carried an entire company.

The vehicles were used for sieges largely, digging under bastion walls and storming enemy fortresses or bunkers from the inside. They resemble ICBM carriers with huge rocket shaped tunnelling transporters (a bit like the robot ones from the Matrix) on top.

Gears of War 2 had a similar concept, tunnelling transporters, but likie so many other things, GW got there first.      

 

 

Actually, Gerry Anderson got there first with Thunderbirds (the Mole was carried by Thunderbird 2, in (I believe) Pod 2). The main point still stands though- it has been done before.

Ah, that Hellbore! Oh well .... sonrojado.gif

And I always thought that the Mole was in Pod 4 (the same as Thunderbird 4), but I'll have to check the DVDs sometime to be sure.

DW

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JRaup said:

Off hand, with out checking my stuff, I think it has a "live crew" of 30, plus servitors (40-50).  I can ask around on the NEtEpic list if you want a more definitive answer.

Hmmm... those figures seem awfully high to me. The little cabin you can see on the miniature is smaller than a rhino APC, which only carries around 10 men... And if it's got a total crew of 70-80 (if you count servitors as crew) and they're all sitting inside the tunneller, that means there's not going to be a lot of room for assault troops...

Do you have a canon source for those figures? I'm not aware of any...

I'd guess that we'd be looking at a crew of at most 5 or 6 in the transporter and another 3-5 in the tunneller. That is of course, pure speculation on my part! happy.gif 

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