0 Str Characters and Title bonus

[AMBusam 0]

Hello,

 

     A situation came up the other day and try as I might to discern from the rules or find a thread talking about it, I could not resolve the issue definitively. Here's the situation:

 

A characters STR has been reduced to 0 through a card effect.

This character is the only eligible defender in a challenge.

The opponent is attacking with a 2 STR character.

The defending player has a title that gives him a +3 bonus on this challenge type.

 

Does the defender still win? 

 

I assumed so, since the requirements of having a participating character and having a total challenge STR of greater than 0 was met.

 

Further:

Assuming the same kind of details above, if the attacker wanted to use an effect that required him to win a challenge by 4 or more, would he need a total STR of 7 if the defender chooses to not have any characters participate?

 

Thanks a lot,

ambusam

 

[ktom 598]

AMBusam said:

I assumed so, since the requirements of having a participating character and having a total challenge STR of greater than 0 was met.

Correct. There is nothing saying that a character must have STR greater than 0, only that one needs to be participating. Of course, beyond the title, there aren't a whole lot of "general challenge STR bonuses," but they are there.

0 STR characters can participate in challenges (think Stealth, Deadly, etc.). They just can't win the challenge without some other STR contribution to the total challenge STR.

 

AMBusam said:

Further:

Assuming the same kind of details above, if the attacker wanted to use an effect that required him to win a challenge by 4 or more, would he need a total STR of 7 if the defender chooses to not have any characters participate?

As the rules say:

• Crown Regent: "If you choose this title, you add 3 to your side’s total STR in any POW challenge in which you have at least one participating character."
• Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: "If you choose this title, you add 3 to your side’s total STR in any MIL challenge in which you have at least one participating character."
• Master of Whispers: "If you choose this title, you add 3 to your side’s total STR in any INT challenge in which you have at least one participating character."

So if you there are no defending characters, it seems pretty clear that the +3 is not added into the challenge. If it is not added to the challenge, the attacker only needs 4 STR in order to win by 4.

 

[AMBusam 0]

 Aha, I missed that line. Thanks for pointing it out. 

 

All is clear now. Your assistance is appreciated.