The Loser Wild Flare

[Shawn Kehoe 0]

The Loser Wild Flare is played before encounter cards are selected in Planning and makes both sides lose, sending all ships to the Warp.

We've interpreted this card to end the encounter, ie. No encounter cards are selected, and no Reveal / Resolution powers will be activated. ( I could see a case for Resolution powers though).

 

1) Is this how others play with the card?

 

2) If so, does this mean that a defending player with only the Loser flare in hand could play it, ending the battle before they have to select encounters and thus retaining the flare?

 

3) If Encounter cards ARE played, do the Loser's victims count as compensation for negotiate cards?

 

Thanks Much,

Shawn

[Rubric 0]

CitizenK2 said:

The Loser Wild Flare is played before encounter cards are selected in Planning and makes both sides lose, sending all ships to the Warp.

We've interpreted this card to end the encounter, ie. No encounter cards are selected, and no Reveal / Resolution powers will be activated. ( I could see a case for Resolution powers though).

 

1) Is this how others play with the card?

 

2) If so, does this mean that a defending player with only the Loser flare in hand could play it, ending the battle before they have to select encounters and thus retaining the flare?

 

3) If Encounter cards ARE played, do the Loser's victims count as compensation for negotiate cards?

 

 

Wild Loser is one of my favorite flares.  The best time to play it is when you are defending a planet with zero ships.  You lose nothing!

Regarding your question:

1.  It ends the encounter.  I don't see any other possible interpretation.  However, I suppose powers like Vacuum would still work.

2.  The only limitation is to play it before encounter cards are selected.  So, you could lay it down as soon as you are identified as the Defender.  Actually, as Defender, you aren't even supposed to draw your new hand until after allies are committed (although everybody I know plays that wrong).

3.  If encounter cards are already played, then it's too late to use the flare.

 

 

[slabgar 0]

The loser flare is played during the planning phase, before encounter cards are selected.

[Shawn Kehoe 0]

Rubric said:

3) If Encounter cards ARE played, do the Loser's victims count as compensation for negotiate cards?

3.  If encounter cards are already played, then it's too late to use the flare.

 

 

Oh, I get that. Question 3 tied into the first question ... ie, If the battle DOESN'T end immediately, how would a negotiate be handled. I think you and I are on the same page.