The Game End

[amikezor 11]

 As perhaps several players on this forum, I dislike how the game ends. It is either right in the middle of the action (i.e. the sixth seal) and therefore a bit frustrating or even worst concludes with a hundred a dice rolls that are blows against a gigantic unspeakable god (i.e. the so-called final battle). I think the goal of such a rich game is even not satisfying since it focus either on clues only (for seals) or on weapons and offensive spells (for the final battle) with which several investigators are not good at. 

Therefore, I have been working on a new game end that 1/ is always paroxystic 2/ where all investigators can help and 3/ that difficulty highly depends on how investigators handle the game in most of its aspects (ie. terror, possessions, gates, seals, etc). 

It plays in 10-15 minutes when the game enters the Final Phase. Obviously, it required some improvements on the wording, though the mechanics seems to work pretty well (as far as I tested so far) and gave much more satisfaction than the usual end (at least to my gaming group). So here it is, all comments welcome:

 

[Avi_dreader 64]

 I think I need to take another look at this in the morning when I'm not exhausted...  Looks potentially interesting, but I'm having problems understanding parts of it...  Will look at it again when rested.

[amikezor 11]

 Well, please do so. Any help on the wording would be more than welcome. I know that the language can make it difficult to get the meaning. The basic idea is to change the end, which I find really boring (well compared to the game) into something quick, exciting and easy to play with. 

[Avi_dreader 64]

 Okay, now I understand it.  It's fairly interesting, unfortunately I'm not going to play it because I hate printing out those sorts of things ;') I might if there were some way of playing it with 11 chapters (I could replace the locations with a printout page and locations numbered 2-12 and determine which chapters are open by die rolls.

If you remind me in about three weeks to a month, I'll help you edit this.  I'm very busy setting up my new apartment (and exhausted), so I need a bit of time before editing something so large.

I'd probably dump Money Buy Happiness.  Or alter it so it costs quite a bit more.

[amikezor 11]

Thank you Avi for the feedback. I could try to make it on a single sheet, though it would be less pretty. I'll think about it.

I'll remind you in 3 weeks or so then :-)

 

[amikezor 11]

Finally, someone on BGG helped me with the wording. It should now be ready to play now.

Please everyone, try it out. it is fun. 

[amikezor 11]

 well, there is this thing about the delay in updating on photobucket. intriguing, isn't it ?

[Avi_dreader 64]

amikezor said:

Thank you Avi for the feedback. I could try to make it on a single sheet, though it would be less pretty. I'll think about it.

I'll remind you in 3 weeks or so then :-)

 

Less pretty for those who would print out the components and cut around them ;') more pretty for me (and possibly a few others who are squeamish about printing irregular shapes (non-euclidean! non-euclidean!).

[Sdrolion 0]

One note: the third end condition is incorrect, I think: for a Closing victory, don't you have to have all gates closed and trophies equal to the number of investigators plus one?  You just have them having trophies equal to the number of investigators.

[Sdrolion 0]

I do like this conceptually.

When the "Hideous Plot" chapter happens...how is it "closed?"  Or is it just discarded once used without being considered "closed"?

[player632195 0]

Avi_dreader said:

amikezor said:

 

Thank you Avi for the feedback. I could try to make it on a single sheet, though it would be less pretty. I'll think about it.

I'll remind you in 3 weeks or so then :-)

 

 

 

Less pretty for those who would print out the components and cut around them ;') more pretty for me (and possibly a few others who are squeamish about printing irregular shapes (non-euclidean! non-euclidean!).

Ah ah !!! I asked him why he didn't use classic myth or encounter cards I was even thinking of doing my own version with rectangular shape. (okay not exactly rectangular cause of rounded corner, but far easier to cut)

[Julia 2,809]

Sdrolion said:

One note: the third end condition is incorrect, I think: for a Closing victory, don't you have to have all gates closed and trophies equal to the number of investigators plus one?  You just have them having trophies equal to the number of investigators.

Nope, it's enough if you have trophies equal to the number of investigators in play

[player632195 0]

Sdrolion said:

I do like this conceptually.

When the "Hideous Plot" chapter happens...how is it "closed?"  Or is it just discarded once used without being considered "closed"?

 

I think he forgot some words. You should read:

"Special : draw and resolve a plot card from the Ancient One, then close that chapter. The next attack of the Ancient One..."

According to the original french version.

 

[Sdrolion 0]

Julia said:

Sdrolion said:

 

One note: the third end condition is incorrect, I think: for a Closing victory, don't you have to have all gates closed and trophies equal to the number of investigators plus one?  You just have them having trophies equal to the number of investigators.

 

 

Nope, it's enough if you have trophies equal to the number of investigators in play

O_O  Where did I get that from, then? O_O

[Julia 2,809]

@ Amikezor: I think it's an interesting way of changing the end of the game. I can't say anything about it at this moment, but I'll give it a try asap, probably this sunday (at the moment, I have two games scheduled, Cthulhu revised + Mother Hydra or Avi's league Scenario 8; don't know which one to play first. In case I'll go with Cthulhu, I'll try your varian and post a comment thereafter)

[Avi_dreader 64]

Julia said:

@ Amikezor: I think it's an interesting way of changing the end of the game. I can't say anything about it at this moment, but I'll give it a try asap, probably this sunday (at the moment, I have two games scheduled, Cthulhu revised + Mother Hydra or Avi's league Scenario 8; don't know which one to play first. In case I'll go with Cthulhu, I'll try your varian and post a comment thereafter)

Eep.  I better post scenario nine this week.

[Julia 2,809]

Avi_dreader said:

Eep.  I better post scenario nine this week.

No rush. Scenario 8 can require an extra session, and probably I'll play Cthulhu first. Go on with the things you have to do. In case I desperately need a new Scenario, I'll ask you!

[amikezor 11]

Sdrolion said:

 

I do like this conceptually.

When the "Hideous Plot" chapter happens...how is it "closed?"  Or is it just discarded once used without being considered "closed"?

 

 

wow, see how many post. I am glad you discuss this guys. I think it is fun to play (I won't play without anymore :-).

Right, as Hugues posted, it should be read "draw and resolve a plot to close this chapter". I will correct this asap.

thank you for the positive feedback.

[amikezor 11]

Hugues said:

Avi_dreader said:

 

Less pretty for those who would print out the components and cut around them ;') more pretty for me (and possibly a few others who are squeamish about printing irregular shapes (non-euclidean! non-euclidean!).

 

 

Ah ah !!! I asked him why he didn't use classic myth or encounter cards I was even thinking of doing my own version with rectangular shape. (okay not exactly rectangular cause of rounded corner, but far easier to cut)

. Well, OK. I will keep the locations but add squares around them to make the cut easy. it did not look so nice on a card. Plus, I cut all the chapters in less than 10 minutes, so it is not that bad. BUT OK. I'll add the squares on the next version (the one without the hideous plot typo).

[amikezor 11]

Julia said:

@ Amikezor: I think it's an interesting way of changing the end of the game. I can't say anything about it at this moment, but I'll give it a try asap, probably this sunday (at the moment, I have two games scheduled, Cthulhu revised + Mother Hydra or Avi's league Scenario 8; don't know which one to play first. In case I'll go with Cthulhu, I'll try your varian and post a comment thereafter)

great. Please do so. I'll be very happy to have some more feedback.

[amikezor 11]

 Updated. Removed the typo on hideous plot and add a background so that you can cut them the way you like and they remain pretty (no more horror check is required to cut them :-)

--just wait for photobucket to update the files...--

[Avi_dreader 64]

amikezor said:

 Updated. Removed the typo on hideous plot and add a background so that you can cut them the way you like and they remain pretty (no more horror check is required to cut them :-)

just wait for photobucket to update the files...

I still won't use it, but it's definitely an improvement for other less finicky finicky players ;')

[amikezor 11]

Avi_dreader said:

I still won't use it, but it's definitely an improvement for other less finicky finicky players ;')

Are you scissorsophobe ? ;o)) 

[Avi_dreader 64]

Julia said:

Avi_dreader said:

 

Eep.  I better post scenario nine this week.

 

 

No rush. Scenario 8 can require an extra session, and probably I'll play Cthulhu first. Go on with the things you have to do. In case I desperately need a new Scenario, I'll ask you!

::Laughter:: and you know I'd do it overnight (or overday) if asked.

[Avi_dreader 64]

amikezor said:

Avi_dreader said:

 

I still won't use it, but it's definitely an improvement for other less finicky finicky players ;')

 

 

Are you scissorsophobe ? ;o)) 

I have even drawn the madness cards that don't exist yet.