Uncle Joker 0 Posted February 17, 2011 Family, Duty, Honor (4) (3) (1) [Neutral Plot]When revealed, search the top 5 cards of your deck for any number of House Tully cards, reveal them, and add them to your hand. Then, shuffle the other searched cards back into your deck. Can I only reveal and add 1 Tully card to my hand if I found 3? Fear Cuts Deeper than Swords [Neutral Event]Response: Cancel the effects of an event card just played if one of your HS characters is chosen as the only target. Can Lethal Counterattack be cancelled by "Fear Cuts Deeper than Swords" if I have only one attacking HS character? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktom 598 Posted February 18, 2011 Uncle Joker said: Family, Duty, Honor (4) (3) (1) [Neutral Plot]When revealed, search the top 5 cards of your deck for any number of House Tully cards, reveal them, and add them to your hand. Then, shuffle the other searched cards back into your deck. Can I only reveal and add 1 Tully card to my hand if I found 3? Between the "any number" and the "them" wording, it is pretty safe to say this effect can refer to more than 1 House Tully card. You can end up putting anywhere between 0 and 5 cards into your hand with this plot.Uncle Joker said: Fear Cuts Deeper than Swords [Neutral Event]Response: Cancel the effects of an event card just played if one of your HS characters is chosen as the only target.Can Lethal Counterattack be cancelled by "Fear Cuts Deeper than Swords" if I have only one attacking HS character? Remember that in order for an effect to have a target, it must include the word "choose." Lethal Counterattack does not choose anything and therefore has no targets. Since Fear Cuts... requires the effect to have a target (and only 1 Stark target at that) before it can cancel anything. It will never be able to cancel Lethal Counterattack since there will never be any targets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged_Human 0 Posted February 18, 2011 ktom said: Between the "any number" and the "them" wording, it is pretty safe to say this effect can refer to more than 1 House Tully card. You can end up putting anywhere between 0 and 5 cards into your hand with this plot. Since this plot brings you over your allowed number of cards drawn during the "Draw" phase, is the person who plays this plot still allowed to draw their "2" cards during the draw phase? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darksbane 82 Posted February 18, 2011 Winged_Human said: Since this plot brings you over your allowed number of cards drawn during the "Draw" phase, is the person who plays this plot still allowed to draw their "2" cards during the draw phase? You are not drawing the cards with this plot so it does not effect your draw cap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged_Human 0 Posted February 18, 2011 Darksbane said: You are not drawing the cards with this plot so it does not effect your draw cap. If that's the case, then do "summoning season", and "Building season" not count toward your draw cap as well? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saturnine 47 Posted February 18, 2011 Winged_Human said: Darksbane said: You are not drawing the cards with this plot so it does not effect your draw cap. If that's the case, then do "summoning season", and "Building season" not count toward your draw cap as well? Correct. Effects that let you "put a card into your hand" is not a draw effect. Only when the effect uses the word "draw" does it count against the draw cap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged_Human 0 Posted February 18, 2011 Awesome. Thanks for the clarification. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delobius 0 Posted February 18, 2011 ktom said: Uncle Joker said: Family, Duty, Honor (4) (3) (1) [Neutral Plot]When revealed, search the top 5 cards of your deck for any number of House Tully cards, reveal them, and add them to your hand. Then, shuffle the other searched cards back into your deck. Can I only reveal and add 1 Tully card to my hand if I found 3? Between the "any number" and the "them" wording, it is pretty safe to say this effect can refer to more than 1 House Tully card. You can end up putting anywhere between 0 and 5 cards into your hand with this plot. Turning this one around, can "any number" be less than the number of House Tully cards you actually found? For example, I search the top 5 cards, find 4 House Tully cards, but I only want to take 2 (or 1 or 3 or 0) for some reason. Is this possible? Pretty unlikely scenario, but might come up if, say, you flip this plot and the opponent flips Rule by Decree and they make your plot go off first in order to make you lose some cards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saturnine 47 Posted February 18, 2011 Delobius said: ktom said: Uncle Joker said: Family, Duty, Honor (4) (3) (1) [Neutral Plot]When revealed, search the top 5 cards of your deck for any number of House Tully cards, reveal them, and add them to your hand. Then, shuffle the other searched cards back into your deck. Can I only reveal and add 1 Tully card to my hand if I found 3? Between the "any number" and the "them" wording, it is pretty safe to say this effect can refer to more than 1 House Tully card. You can end up putting anywhere between 0 and 5 cards into your hand with this plot. Turning this one around, can "any number" be less than the number of House Tully cards you actually found? For example, I search the top 5 cards, find 4 House Tully cards, but I only want to take 2 (or 1 or 3 or 0) for some reason. Is this possible? Pretty unlikely scenario, but might come up if, say, you flip this plot and the opponent flips Rule by Decree and they make your plot go off first in order to make you lose some cards. I would think the "any number" wording makes this possible. Ultimately, your opponent has no way of verifying how many Tully cards are among the top five cards of your deck. You can simply say you found none and shuffle the cards back into your deck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktom 598 Posted February 18, 2011 Saturnine said: I would think the "any number" wording makes this possible. Ultimately, your opponent has no way of verifying how many Tully cards are among the top five cards of your deck. You can simply say you found none and shuffle the cards back into your deck.That makes it sound a little more clandestine than it really is, but yes. You can reveal fewer House Tully cards than you find in those top 5 cards, effectively shuffling cards that would have been eligible for placement in your hand back into your deck.Essentially, "any number" does not translate to "all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites