The ORDER of Sogetsu's Water Ninjutsu

[BlackFireDragon 0]

Characters:
**Sogetsu**

Foundations: 41
x4 Amy's Assistance
x4 Blood Runs True
x4 Familial Loyalty
x4 Lord of the Makai
x4 Chinese Boxing
x4 Makai High Nobal
x4 Aquakinesis
x3 Program Malfunction
x3 Fortune Teller
x3 The Bigger They Are...
x2 Counter the Assault
x2 Experienced Combatant

Attacks: 14
x4 Widow Maker
x4 Kuzuryu Reppa
x4 Crack Counter -> Vaulting
x2 Harrier Bee

Assets: 10
x4 Ocladan's Mentoring
x2 Lynette's Shop
x2 Heisheng Jian
x2 Assassination Arts

Control Checks
2s= 2
3s= 14
4s= 14
5s= 19
6s= 14

Side Deck:
x3 Tag Along
x3 Evil Plans
x2 Holding Ground

Im currently trying out this deck, Im mostly building it block 3, with the exception of Heisheng, Widow, and Fortune Teller for now. The current plan for when I take it block 3 is this: -4 Widow, -2 HJ, -3 FT, +4 High Plasma Beam, +1 Harrier Bee, +3 Tag Along (cutting the deck by 1 card). Then the x3 tags in the side would be replaced with Cutting Edge. Let me know of any ideas that could help out, however if you are going to suggest something to go in or come out, please also suggest a replacement or removal for it. 

[kilik850 0]

The Deck looks really solid.  The only thing I can suggest is maybe switching the 2 Moon Sault Slayers for 2 Lunar Slashes.  It might make the checks a little worse, but it will give you twice the base speed and damage.  Also, if you really want to take out Tag Along, you could switch it for Personal Style.  It gives you higher checks, additional blocks, and a wicked effect that makes your multiple attacks even bigger!

[BlackFireDragon 0]

kilik850 said:

The Deck looks really solid.  The only thing I can suggest is maybe switching the 2 Moon Sault Slayers for 2 Lunar Slashes.  It might make the checks a little worse, but it will give you twice the base speed and damage.  Also, if you really want to take out Tag Along, you could switch it for Personal Style.  It gives you higher checks, additional blocks, and a wicked effect that makes your multiple attacks even bigger!

I was thinking about possibly trying Son of a Tycoon, since its a 6 check, draws a card, and gives me a tide token that can then be used with Sogetsu's ability.

 

Anyone else have any ideas?

[Antigoth 0]

Question - Do you really need the fortune tellers?

It's a great card in certain situations, but no block, 4 check, and you've got enough draw power that you should be able to fish for what you want.

Son of a Tycoon is solid, card draw, 6 check, +2 mid block.

 

 

 

[BlackFireDragon 0]

Antigoth said:

Question - Do you really need the fortune tellers?

It's a great card in certain situations, but no block, 4 check, and you've got enough draw power that you should be able to fish for what you want.

Son of a Tycoon is solid, card draw, 6 check, +2 mid block.

 

And with The Bigger they are... I basically get 2 Military Ranks every turn for any cards. Like I said, I might take out the Tag Alongs for now until I change it to Block 3 since tag basically does the same job, just not as much.

[kilik850 0]

You could also try Dormant For Millions Of Years as a form of anti-committal in this deck.

[BlackFireDragon 0]

working on making it block 3

 

tryed it out a few times, just need to tweek the checks a bit

[kilik850 0]

You could also try Sonic Boom EXTRA in the attack line-up.

[BlackFireDragon 0]

kilik850 said:

You could also try Sonic Boom EXTRA in the attack line-up.

 

For what reason? In place of what?

[kilik850 0]

I'm not exactly sure what to replace it with, but I'd probably say Crack Counter.  And I'd say replace it because with the amount of control you have, it might be beneficial to put a powerful attack in your deck to take advantage of the lockdown.

[guitalex2008 0]

BlackFireDragon said:

 

Im currently trying out this deck, Im mostly building it block 3, with the exception of Heisheng, Widow, and Fortune Teller for now. Let me know of any ideas that could help out, however if you are going to suggest something to go in or come out, please also suggest a replacement or removal for it. 

 

 

I could perhaps offer some replacements for block 3.

Widow Maker - Sad, the lack of decent Order throws since Widow Maker.  That said, go with Moon Glow for hand refill.  Selective discard then draw is nice and rarely ends up being for nothing, plus you can push it through with BRT and the only cost is a 5 check.

Heisheng Jian + Fortune Teller = Where the heck is Aquakinesis?  I was going to suggest removing Son of a Tycoon for it (the 6 check is nice, but drawing without letting your opponent draw is nicer).  The Bigger They Are + Aquakinesis is kind of nasty and will give you plenty of drawing options early game, one being a Form and one being a Response.  With Son of a Tycoon's Enhance, unless your opponent has multiple Chester's this means you're definitely drawing at some point lol

I did note that HJ + FT =  5 cards so consider upping Crack Counter -> Vaulting to 4, since you're a bit low on attacks.

 

[BlackFireDragon 0]

bump, let me know of any ideas that could help. I will be taking it block 3 in maybe a month or less.

[tannerface 0]

You can replace widow maker with butt slam. Its a throw with some vitality gain, has order. It's no widow maker but your prolly never going to see a widow maker again.

[Da_ghetto_gamer 0]

i sense the lack of a worthy kill card in the deck you got goin here i would suggest neo raging storms if you can get a hold of them yeah the restriction on playing it may make it harder 2 play but its definitlely worth it and plus its powerful 2 on top of 10 damage so those smaller attacks that you did damage with earlier in the game will pay off twice.....and you can play K Reppa and multiple it out into a raging storm which is nice as well

id say take out the vaultings for them but them again you want 2 make it block 3 so taking out the widow makers might not be a bad idea but i really like widowmaker as its a good throw with a 3cc

 

[BlackFireDragon 0]

deck updated, let me know of any ideas

[BlackFireDragon 0]

deck Updated, still alittle block 2 until those 3 cards cycle. feel free to make any suggestions, they are appriciated

[Gummy Bear 0]

Since Hiasheng Jian is going to rotate out soon anyway, you might as well take it out now and put one more into Son of a Tycoon and one more into Olcadan's.

[BlackFireDragon 0]

Gummy Bear said:

Since Hiasheng Jian is going to rotate out soon anyway, you might as well take it out now and put one more into Son of a Tycoon and one more into Olcadan's.

Card stays in until I can no longer use it.

[Gummy Bear 0]

BlackFireDragon said:

Gummy Bear said:

 

Since Hiasheng Jian is going to rotate out soon anyway, you might as well take it out now and put one more into Son of a Tycoon and one more into Olcadan's.

 

 

Card stays in until I can no longer use it.

This is a place for advice, so I gave you my thoughts. If you want to ride the horse, until the horse dies, then that's your choice. I said what I said, because it might be a good idea to get a new feel for your deck with the new cards in it, so you don't have to do it later.

[Da_ghetto_gamer 0]

I agree with gummy maybe not yet but sometime in the next week or 2 id get a new feel for for what your deck is going 2 be in block 3 before everyone else so you have better knowledge i played in a tourney yesterday with my block 3 adon and its wrecked face only lost one game all night 2 a water reversal lizardman but they were all playing some sort of block 2 deck and since ive got a feel for block 3 i knew how 2 handle most situations.

aside from that id either up the harrier bees to a playest of 4 or take them out altogether and id replace them if you did with bayonette lunge or maga stake.....same difficulty but 3CC even if they dont discard cards with only 2 of them is it worth it 2 run the 2CC
 

[BlackFireDragon 0]

The deck will be going block 3 at the end of Feb or very beginning of March. Heisheng is my favorite card so as long as I can play it, I will.

My current plans are to replace the widows with Bee, and Fortune Teller with probably Tag Along.

 

Why Mega Stake? Other then fairly good stats, its a pretty crappy attack. I was thinking about maybe High Plasmabeam, maybe after some discarding with attacks before it then throwing it as a kill. I already have a fairly good idea what the block 3 will look like, seeing as how all but 9 cards are block 3.

[Gummy Bear 0]

BlackFireDragon said:

The deck will be going block 3 at the end of Feb or very beginning of March. Heisheng is my favorite card so as long as I can play it, I will.

My current plans are to replace the widows with Bee, and Fortune Teller with probably Tag Along.

 

Why Mega Stake? Other then fairly good stats, its a pretty crappy attack. I was thinking about maybe High Plasmabeam, maybe after some discarding with attacks before it then throwing it as a kill. I already have a fairly good idea what the block 3 will look like, seeing as how all but 9 cards are block 3.

You can never go wrong with High Plasma Beam. Even if the resource symbols don't match your character card, throw it in there anyway, because it will work.... somehow. (Just kidding.) But seriously though, it's a great card, and I'd highly recommend it in any order deck.

[Da_ghetto_gamer 0]

Yeah id say if you do add in more Harrier bees(x4)  so you can discard your opponents hand before playing Plasma beam then it should definitely find a way into the deck. aside from it being an amazing card it gives you kill power that you might be lacking otherwise.

[BlackFireDragon 0]

Deck updated, let me know what you think. As I said the deck will go block 3 on March 1st.