CaribbeanNinja 6,210 Posted December 1, 2020 https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2020/12/1/new-rules-of-engagement/ 4 2 DR4CO, lunitic501, Dark Stoke and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cadetvw 143 Posted December 1, 2020 Good super sleuthing! Snuck them out at a random time it would seem 1 lunitic501 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joespahr 11 Posted December 1, 2020 "If players have exhausted cards with a non-recur icon, they take turns, starting with the first player, choosing one card to ready and paying that card’s cost, until one player has no more cards to ready." So if you have more exhausted cards than your opponent, you can't ready any cards you have left in excess of their readied cards? Interesting... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antonio_F 38 Posted December 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, joespahr said: "If players have exhausted cards with a non-recur icon, they take turns, starting with the first player, choosing one card to ready and paying that card’s cost, until one player has no more cards to ready." So if you have more exhausted cards than your opponent, you can't ready any cards you have left in excess of their readied cards? Interesting... I think that just means you won't be taking turns anymore, i.e. just ready all your cards in any order (while paying the cost). 3 1 Rmcarrier1, ClassicalMoser, Flengin and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rimsen 1,421 Posted December 1, 2020 I'm unsure I whether or not o should trust posted links lately.... 2 10 RyonOlson, evo454, Chamberlin and 9 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petersaber 161 Posted December 1, 2020 " or taking specific upgrades (such as Strategic Adviser) that assist large ships in delaying their activations." That was literally the reason why that card was created... Pass Tokens being one-off only reintroduces the idea (and, I dare say, necessity for some archetypes) of including "trash" activations, like naked Torpedo Hammerheads. "Pass Tokens This is the single biggest change to the core Armada game experience. We've repurposed the pass token mechanic introduced with the Super Star Destroyer to provide more parity to fleets with lower activations than their opponents. Tokens are now expendable and spent during the Ship Phase to pass an activation turn." Does this mean the SSD loses it's ability to pass each turn in favour of getting an unknown number of one-off Pass Tokens? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncrustable 37 Posted December 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rimsen said: I'm unsure I whether or not o should trust posted links lately.... Yeah don't i clicked and its rhinoceros prn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triangular 1,138 Posted December 1, 2020 I can‘t find the „Engine Techs“ in the Errata section. Am I blind, did they forget or did they decide to take the double-ram-barrier back? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertie Wooster 1,897 Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Triangular said: I can‘t find the „Engine Techs“ in the Errata section. Am I blind, did they forget or did they decide to take the double-ram-barrier back? Page 44. It's not under Errata, but "clarifications." Edited December 1, 2020 by Bertie Wooster 1 1 Triangular and lunitic501 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianediger 1,349 Posted December 1, 2020 Holy cow, Chimaera's FAQ entry almost takes up a whole column by itself! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumbleduke 810 Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Petersaber said: Does this mean the SSD loses it's ability to pass each turn in favour of getting an unknown number of one-off Pass Tokens? Yes, this is mentioned in the full Rules Reference, page 14: "Note: These rules replace the pass token rules previously published in the Super Star Destroyer expansion. A huge ship no longer receives an additional pass token as described in those rules." 59 minutes ago, joespahr said: So if you have more exhausted cards than your opponent, you can't ready any cards you have left in excess of their readied cards? Interesting... I suspect most players won't worry about this new rule, particularly in casual games, but it is there as now players make a choice when readying some of their cards, and that choice can give their opponent some extra information. Also, looks like we're getting larger Damage Deck cards as well. That's potentially a lot more table space covered up, particularly in team games or high-point games. Oooh, Game Crash with Engine Techs! New Engine Techs says: "After you execute a maneuver, if you overlapped a ship, exhaust this card." But the new Overlapping rule says: "If a ship overlaps another ship while moving, it has not executed its maneuver until it resolves the effects of overlapping that other ship, including being dealt damage cards." So if you overlap a ship, you haven't executed its maneuver until you've resolved all the effects of overlapping the ship. Engine Techs has an effect when you overlap a ship. But you don't resolve the Engine Techs effect until "after" you execute a maneuver. But you can't get to after executing the maneuver until you've resolved the effects... Don't interpret Engine Techs this way. Pretend that "after" is a "while". Edited December 1, 2020 by Grumbleduke 4 1 1 RyonOlson, Formynder4, Bertie Wooster and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petersaber 161 Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Grumbleduke said: Yes, this is mentioned in the full Rules Reference, page 14: "Note: These rules replace the pass token rules previously published in the Super Star Destroyer expansion. A huge ship no longer receives an additional pass token as described in those rules." As someone who won a tournament (including a W against a continental vice-champ) using the SSD and owes a lot to that recurring Pass Token... RIP. Edited December 1, 2020 by Petersaber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ophion 940 Posted December 1, 2020 no acknowledgement of the developers in the article. classy. 1 Norell reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clontroper5 4,234 Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Ophion said: no acknowledgement of the developers in the article. classy. not the purpose of the article, and it was likely done/mostly done before the change was known about 1 flatpackhamster reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mogrok 526 Posted December 1, 2020 yah the didn't even update the playtesters or staff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaLeu 257 Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) Dominator still 12 points. Really? And all the other stuff like General Romodi or Moralo Eval? If this really is THE big update, I‘m disappointed. Edited December 1, 2020 by KaLeu 3 Green Knight, Captain Corvid and SoonerTed reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ophion 940 Posted December 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, clontroper5 said: not the purpose of the article, and it was likely done/mostly done before the change was known about In such articles in the past they have ('heres Brooks to talk about .... '). Moreover it would have been a good opportunity to thank and acknowledge all the previous dev team for bringing the game to this point of handover. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayster 5 Posted December 1, 2020 Can someone double check this please - I think the wording for the maximum number of flotillas has been removed. I don't think running more than 2 flotillas is fantastic, especially with the new pass rules, but it opens up the design space for more different flotillas. 1 lunitic501 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green Knight 9,797 Posted December 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rayster said: Can someone double check this please - I think the wording for the maximum number of flotillas has been removed. I don't think running more than 2 flotillas is fantastic, especially with the new pass rules, but it opens up the design space for more different flotillas. Tournament regs. 2 1 lunitic501, Formynder4 and DR4CO reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunitic501 308 Posted December 1, 2020 Are flotillas still limited to 2 per fleet? Didnt see anything about it under flotillas in the RRG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green Knight 9,797 Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, lunitic501 said: Are flotillas still limited to 2 per fleet? Didnt see anything about it under flotillas in the RRG Never been part of RRG. TOURNAMENT REGS. Edited December 1, 2020 by Green Knight 4 1 Formynder4, Flengin, Mogrok and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginkapo 9,381 Posted December 1, 2020 Oh wow, eight gozanti relay is back 1 3 Rimsen, Chamberlin, Green Knight and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaLeu 257 Posted December 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ginkapo said: Oh wow, eight gozanti relay is back Eight assault gozanti with Romodi. 1 RyonOlson reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clontroper5 4,234 Posted December 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ginkapo said: Oh wow, eight gozanti relay is back 17 minutes ago, KaLeu said: Eight assault gozanti with Romodi. see GK 40 minutes ago, Green Knight said: Never been part of RRG. TOURNAMENT REGS. 1 1 1 lunitic501, Flengin and DR4CO reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lemmiwinks86 945 Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Triangular said: I can‘t find the „Engine Techs“ in the Errata section. Am I blind, did they forget or did they decide to take the double-ram-barrier back? That double ram is not back, that it's mentioned in the FAQ section. Apparently they just forgot to put Engine Techs in the errata section. 3 RyonOlson, Triangular and DR4CO reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites