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Full interview here.  Holy mother of God.

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/john-boyega-interview-2020

"He is on a breathless roll now, breaking his long corporate omerta to touch on the unthinking, systemic mistreatment of black characters in blockbusters (“They’re always scared. They’re always fricking sweating”) and what he sees as the relative salvage job that returnee director JJ Abrams performed on The Rise Of Skywalker (“Everybody needs to leave my boy alone. He wasn’t even supposed to come back and try to save your s**t”)."

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1 hour ago, Sithborg said:

I mean, he hasn't exactly been sugar coating things after the release of TROS. And he had been clearly chafing under Disney's control of his public appearance for a while. 

True enough, this latest interview though is pretty blunt.  He's not the only cast member to have expressed frustrations with the (lack of) direction, but the points he's making hit hard.

Again, I know they're entirely different studios, but when you compare what Disney has done with Marvel to what they've done with Star Wars... 

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15 hours ago, Sithborg said:

Yeah, Disney should have given Kennedy the time she needed to make the movies. Instead of pushing for a yearly release and 2 years between the main movies. Feige just needed Disney to get rid of Perlemutter off his back. 

Different styles as well, I guess.  The Marvel movies are mostly independent stories, loosely connected by an overarching narrative.  The Star Wars films were intended to be one linear story - there needed to be a solid story and direction in place for all three, and we didn't get that.  What we got was rushed and changed on the fly.

It's easy to believe that John was told one thing when he signed in the dotted line for TFA, and then told something completely different when he came back for TLJ.

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6 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Different styles as well, I guess.  The Marvel movies are mostly independent stories, loosely connected by an overarching narrative.  The Star Wars films were intended to be one linear story - there needed to be a solid story and direction in place for all three, and we didn't get that.  What we got was rushed and changed on the fly.

It's easy to believe that John was told one thing when he signed in the dotted line for TFA, and then told something completely different when he came back for TLJ.

My big problem with the Canto Bight sidequest in TLJ was it played so much like they needed something for Finn to do. 

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On 9/9/2020 at 2:42 PM, FTS Gecko said:

Different styles as well, I guess.  The Marvel movies are mostly independent stories, loosely connected by an overarching narrative.  The Star Wars films were intended to be one linear story - there needed to be a solid story and direction in place for all three, and we didn't get that.  What we got was rushed and changed on the fly.

It's easy to believe that John was told one thing when he signed in the dotted line for TFA, and then told something completely different when he came back for TLJ.

Director changes pretty much guaranteed that.
 

it makes me wonder what JJs 8 would have looked like, or Rian’s 9.

 

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11 hours ago, Sithborg said:

What part of TROS makes you think that? JJ is not interested in following up his mysteries. Because he has no clue about what they are.

Having a clue what they are would prevent him from doing whatever he liked. He couldn't zig when he had set things up for a zag.

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21 hours ago, Sithborg said:

What part of TROS makes you think that? JJ is not interested in following up his mysteries. Because he has no clue about what they are.

Rian is a better writer and director, imo. But he certainly had fewer ideas about JJs arc than JJ.

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13 hours ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

Rian is a better writer and director, imo. But he certainly had fewer ideas about JJs arc than JJ.

I think that’s like comparing two things that are horrible and deciding which is the lesser of two evils. Both seemed to have ideas of what they wanted to show and didn’t really care if the story or universe supported what they wanted to show as long as they got their shot. Of course when you figure in that both seemed to get pleasure from p*ssing over any story setups their predecessor started laying out then you end up with a cluster f**k that shows the lack of direction and care that should have been applied to to any movie trilogy, not to mention to the ending trilogy of one of the most popular movie series of all time. These three movies were not only a failure of the directors involved but of the whole creative team from the top down. It really doesn’t matter if you have good or bad directors when you have no direction or even so much as a storyline from the beginning, anyone who has suffered through these movies can see that was the case. Usually when you hand someone the keys to your car and tell them to drive however they want you are going to end up disappointed in the way they treat it.  

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7 hours ago, Vykk Draygo said:

I think that’s like comparing two things that are horrible and deciding which is the lesser of two evils. Both seemed to have ideas of what they wanted to show and didn’t really care if the story or universe supported what they wanted to show as long as they got their shot. Of course when you figure in that both seemed to get pleasure from p*ssing over any story setups their predecessor started laying out then you end up with a cluster f**k that shows the lack of direction and care that should have been applied to to any movie trilogy, not to mention to the ending trilogy of one of the most popular movie series of all time. These three movies were not only a failure of the directors involved but of the whole creative team from the top down. It really doesn’t matter if you have good or bad directors when you have no direction or even so much as a storyline from the beginning, anyone who has suffered through these movies can see that was the case. Usually when you hand someone the keys to your car and tell them to drive however they want you are going to end up disappointed in the way they treat it.  

This. ^

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11 hours ago, Vykk Draygo said:

I think that’s like comparing two things that are horrible and deciding which is the lesser of two evils. Both seemed to have ideas of what they wanted to show and didn’t really care if the story or universe supported what they wanted to show as long as they got their shot. Of course when you figure in that both seemed to get pleasure from p*ssing over any story setups their predecessor started laying out then you end up with a cluster f**k that shows the lack of direction and care that should have been applied to to any movie trilogy, not to mention to the ending trilogy of one of the most popular movie series of all time. These three movies were not only a failure of the directors involved but of the whole creative team from the top down. It really doesn’t matter if you have good or bad directors when you have no direction or even so much as a storyline from the beginning, anyone who has suffered through these movies can see that was the case. Usually when you hand someone the keys to your car and tell them to drive however they want you are going to end up disappointed in the way they treat it.  

And yet, the OT is good.

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2 hours ago, Sithborg said:

And yet, the OT is good.

And yet I have a first print of the hardback of Star Wars from 1976 with a rough outline of what took place before that ends up very close to what we got decades later, so while there were details hammered out as it was written there was  a rough idea of where the story started and ended from the beginning.

The same can not be said for anything sequel related, so your point was?

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5 hours ago, Dwing said:

One thing is certain for this Trilogy, they did not know what to do with a single character. Not one got a satisfying conclusion. 

I don't think any of them got a satisfying character journey, either...

Honestly, I can't think of a single cast member who felt like they had a complete character arc.

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