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19 minutes ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

So, I hear Hulk is out.  I've not managed to get my Scottish hands on him so appreciate people talking about their experiences.

I’ve been struggling with Hulk himself, at least solo. I’m trying the Leadership deck suggested for him on Hall of Heroes currently, and even that isn’t clicking for me. I’ve enjoyed him 2 handed with Aggression though with someone else worrying about the scheme for him...

The new Aggression cards have been great though - I played some 2 player this week using a Spider-Man Aggression deck and it worked really well.

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8 hours ago, urloony said:

That is some tough luck.  I've had a few packages say they were delivered and never show up.  Who did you order from?  Sometimes they will reship lost shipments, Coolstuff was good about that with me a few years ago, when a package with a ton of stuff went missing around Christmas time.

Went to the post office this morning. They looked up the tracking number which shows item delivered. They then used a GPS system to locate exactly where the item was delivered to, and they confirm it went to a wrong address. They're going to retrieve it today (hopefully). If they can't get the package back I'll have to re-order they tell me. Fat chance of that though. All Marvel Champions goodies get sold out completely on pre-orders on the sites I use. 

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1 hour ago, Janaka said:

Went to the post office this morning. They looked up the tracking number which shows item delivered. They then used a GPS system to locate exactly where the item was delivered to, and they confirm it went to a wrong address. They're going to retrieve it today (hopefully). If they can't get the package back I'll have to re-order they tell me. Fat chance of that though. All Marvel Champions goodies get sold out completely on pre-orders on the sites I use. 

Um, if the wrong address does not return the item, is that not actually theft?  I'd get as much as possible in writing from the post office.

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Woot!!!! Got my Hulk pack.

The folks in the next street who received my package (postman's error) tried to bring it round to me later that day but I was away on holiday; so they left it with one of my neighbours who lives in my street. That neighbour knocked on my door a couple of hours ago to bring me my package. Happy days!

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7 hours ago, FearLord said:

If your argument is that they called her Ms Marvel because they though that would sell better than “Stretchy Girl” or something like that, then I fully agree. It can be very difficult to establish new characters into Marvel, of any background - see Gravity, a white male character I remember Marvel trying to push reasonably hard as a modern Spider-Man type, who stuck around as a bit player to some extent, but didn’t exactly make much of a splash.

I would argue that the launch of Ms Marvel is anything but lazy - they worked extremely hard to create links to the wider Marvel Universe - establishing a connection to the former Ms Marvel (which explains why the character would take on the name) and the Inhumans. What do the Inhumans and Mar-vell have in common? Their powers come from the Kree... They also clearly pushed the character cameos early - stories with Wolverine and Spider-Man? Shameless popularity boosts, sure. But part of what was definitely not a lazy strategy to give the character a fighting chance.

Personally, part of the reason I read Marvel is the established shared universe that these characters inhabit. Names that tie new characters into that shared mythology are a good thing, not a bad thing for me. They could have made her very unconnected to the wider comics - she could have lived miles from New York and existed in her own little corner of the world where she didn’t really have to interact with the wider / more established characters and stories, but that would be far less interesting to me.

All excellent points.  You might be convincing me.

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6 hours ago, Janaka said:

Went to the post office this morning. They looked up the tracking number which shows item delivered. They then used a GPS system to locate exactly where the item was delivered to, and they confirm it went to a wrong address. They're going to retrieve it today (hopefully). If they can't get the package back I'll have to re-order they tell me. Fat chance of that though. All Marvel Champions goodies get sold out completely on pre-orders on the sites I use. 

Excellent!  I didn't even know the post office could do that, that's really good to know.  It certainly makes sense that they could track the vehicle to the point of where it's making it's delivery.  With Fedex, they said they would "open an investigation."  Their investigation consisted of the FedEx manager asking the driver if he delivered it and him saying, "yeah, I delivered it."  

If you can't get a replacement from your store, FFG's Asmodee store still has it in stock and they have free delivery.   The pack is retail price, but delivery is free.

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8 hours ago, FearLord said:

I would argue that the launch of Ms Marvel is anything but lazy - they worked extremely hard to create links to the wider Marvel Universe - establishing a connection to the former Ms Marvel (which explains why the character would take on the name) and the Inhumans. What do the Inhumans and Mar-vell have in common? Their powers come from the Kree... They also clearly pushed the character cameos early - stories with Wolverine and Spider-Man? Shameless popularity boosts, sure. But part of what was definitely not a lazy strategy to give the character a fighting chance.

Establishing connections is a great thing.  I picked up my first Ms. Marvel comic because it had Lockjaw on the cover and I love that dog.  Read a couple pages and they were great so I had to buy it.  Got home, read it all, and knew I had to get more.  Wasn't long before I picked up everything I could find and added her to my weekly pull list at the comic shop.  She's well-developed, well-written, and most importantly, fun to read.  If someone says they don't like Ms. Marvel (or any character for that matter), that's a personal preference and that's fine.  When someone goes on and on about why a character they don't like is bad, despite popular and critical opinion otherwise, motives become suspect. 

I greatly dislike coffee.  Can't stand a strong coffee smell and need a ton of chocolate, whipped cream, or other pleasant things to handle the taste.  I don't start arguments about how coffee is bad because tea is the original heated caffeinated drink and how anyone who likes coffee is wrong, nor do I find or invent facts to prove that my opinion is "correct."  I just don't understand why some people can't just admit their dislike as a personal preference and leave it at that instead of doubling down when called out on it.

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So, I tried to pull the thread back onto the original topic subtly, but now I'm going to be less subtle.  If you hover over a user's avatar image to the left of their post, a box will pop up, including in the bottom middle, the option to ignore user.

When the discussion about Hulk gets derailed onto an argument about Ms Marvel again, 6 months after she was released, I think some people need to start ignoring each other.

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Just now, Tonbo Karasu said:

So, I tried to pull the thread back onto the original topic subtly, but now I'm going to be less subtle.  If you hover over a user's avatar image to the left of their post, a box will pop up, including in the bottom middle, the option to ignore user.

When the discussion about Hulk gets derailed onto an argument about Ms Marvel again, 6 months after she was released, I think some people need to start ignoring each other.

Yea guys just leave it now please. Not great to read at all. 

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19 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

So, I hear Hulk is out.  I've not managed to get my Scottish hands on him so appreciate people talking about their experiences.

He’s a beast, you can wrap some villains in as little as 2 turns with the right combination. 

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Not played Hulk yet as I usually play multiplayer, I have to say everyone in my group can't wait to try him. 

We usually play 4 player and in that player count, I'm guessing you have no guilt about the lack of thwart and can hulk smash as much as you want. 

Great fun. 

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Took some time to tinker with the Hulk deck in order to cram more Physical resources in it so now I like the way it looks for multiplayer.  That prompted me to split She-Hulk out from the Aggression deck she was sharing with Captain America and make one around her.  Since the true strongest Avenger likes Energy and also a good bit pf Physical for Jarnbjorn and Relentless Assault while Hulk hero is very Physical-focused, I made Jen's deck a little heavier on the Mental resources to lean into her slight Mental bias from Superhuman Law Division.  Toe to Toe gives her another tool to help with setting up a big Gamma Slam and it's cheap enough to play in the same turn if you've got a couple extra resources from somewhere.  While Bruce is going to be fun, I'm more excited to try out his cousin's 'punch smarter, not harder' approach!

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On 8/15/2020 at 11:50 AM, BCumming said:

 I just don't understand why some people can't just admit their dislike as a personal preference and leave it at that instead of doubling down when called out on it.

 

How can dislike be anything other than a personal preference, why call somebody out on their personal opinion?  I dislike Ms Marvel as an early choice because I am more familiar with silver/golden age characters.  Getting her first means not getting Thor or Black Widow or Hawkeye or Moon Knight or Daredevil or Vision or Black Bolt as soon.  I feel the same about Groot/Rocket over Vance and Yondu even though I think Groot and Rocket are fun characters.

However, having got her I think she is a really good choice for the game.  She adds a lot to the play of the game and is one of my favorites to play once paired with Justice.  I do think they made a mistake making her with protection (stock).

That being said, I can not answer if they got the feel of the character right because the only frame of reference I have is from the debates on this forum (which for me would be the value of the heavily contested differing opinions).

Edited by IceHot42
switched to spoiled so I dont contribute to the derail

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