NEW POINTS! FFG Article: Adjusted Squad Specs

[Hiemfire 7,292]

@Wazat Wookies went down in cost.

[Ryuneke 794]

Holo + 3 Sienar Jaemus Engineers looks nice

[Hippie Moosen 745]

I'm so happy to see Dash coming down in cost. Outrider is still pricey but a list that features it just went way down in cost so whatever. Bistan also went down a bit. I've got some objectively horrible squads saved that might actually become less awful, or maybe even sorta OK. 

[theBitterFig 11,598]

Just now, Ryuneke said:

Holo + 3 Sienar Jaemus Engineers looks nice

Only problem is it isn't 4 Silencers.

[gennataos 5,873]

7 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

• BB Astromechs legal in HS.  @gennataos rejoice with Poe + 3.

First thing I looked for.  I could just carry one list around now and be perfectly content.

[CaptainJaguarShark 2,050]

I can still run 4 Y-wings with ICT/R4/VTG but only take one seismic. Oh well. Can drop to dorsal for more devices but dorsal just isn't as good. I'm interested in a lot of the stuff entering HS though, that's fun. And I want to fly big ships again, so maybe the adjustments are enough for that. Still feels like they'll struggle a bit, though.

[Managarmr 2,353]

5 minutes ago, gennataos said:

First thing I looked for.  I could just carry one list around now and be perfectly content.

Ello Asty and the undercosted 1pt BB coming into HS shows that FFG no longer cares about keeping hypermobility BS out of HS.

And 48 for Silencers, what were they smoking?

[5050Saint 2,127]

Delta 7B went up and down. From 17/18/19/20 to 15/18/21/24.

[nj1978 23]

where is the updated spreadsheet??! :) 

[Hiemfire 7,292]

11 minutes ago, gennataos said:

First thing I looked for.  I could just carry one list around now and be perfectly content.

Poe also got a point cheaper. Not sure if that is going to ad anything to your list though.

[Hiemfire 7,292]

7 minutes ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

I can still run 4 Y-wings with ICT/R4/VTG but only take one seismic. Oh well. Can drop to dorsal for more devices but dorsal just isn't as good. I'm interested in a lot of the stuff entering HS though, that's fun. And I want to fly big ships again, so maybe the adjustments are enough for that. Still feels like they'll struggle a bit, though.

The Iggys all went down 1 point each and IG-2000 did not go up

[theBitterFig 11,598]

24 minutes ago, Clutterbuck said:

I had been slowly amassing 4 Silencers in the hope that they would drop from 51 to 50.  I'm not sure what extra utility comes from a drop to 48 - maybe 2 Optics?  Or 2 Targeting Synchronizers.    The 8 point bid seems unnecessary, so I'd like to do something with it.  

Sadly, I don't think that when the Xi-shuttle comes out, it would work to have Hux plus 3 Silencers, because I think the Shuttle's coordinate is red.  Hux in an Upsilon doesn't allow 3 Silencers either.  

Targeting Synchronizers won't do anything.

I can see two Optics, I can see Rush.

I can see keeping the bid, protect a few points, and really get the whip hand on Init 1 droids swarms out there who don't want to lose their actions.

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Three SJE + Something just got better.  Holo, as @Ryuneke mentioned, or anything totalling up to 56 points.  Quickdraw fits, given the buff to Special Forces gunner.

Alternately, 3 Optics SJE plus 44 points of stuff.  I've had a few fun games with regular SJE plus an Outmaneuver Malarus.  Midnight fits, and might be an interesting PITA.  A generic TIE/ba isn't exciting, but also offers big offense when left alone.

[TasteTheRainbow 8,726]

VCX and Corran still kinda crap. : /

 

Oh well we won’t be able to have games until the next update anyways.

[gennataos 5,873]

1 minute ago, Hiemfire said:

Poe also got a point cheaper. Not sure if that is going to ad anything to your list though.

Gives me a point bid, which can be useful for the I1s more than Poe, especially with CIS swarm increases.

I'm sure there a bunch of 201 point lists I've built with Poe before...wish I'd kept them. 

[JBFancourt 1,261]

2 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Gives me a point bid, which can be useful for the I1s more than Poe, especially with CIS swarm increases.

I'm sure there a bunch of 201 point lists I've built with Poe before...wish I'd kept them. 

Yup. Just got mine legal! 😁🥳

[theBitterFig 11,598]

Anyone up for running generic TIE/ba now?  41 points for a double-mods offense isn't bad, and while they're a bit squishy for their cost, going Focus/Lock/Strain apparently isn't quite as squishy as it looks.  Three plus Kylo would kind of be a holy terror of a list.

But then again, I can get Kylo plus 3 Zeta SFs with Gunners, and there's a lot of points to play with if going for two Ion Missile/Passive Zetas...

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Changing the list again... Rivas, LeFrance, Kylo, SJE...

[Hiemfire 7,292]

And now to wait for the Rules Update/FAQ to find out what got buffed or broken via that.

[Hiemfire 7,292]

In case he's missed it (extremely unlikely, but possible). @raithos 

[wurms 5,313]

Tavson + phasma crew = 69pts

x2 Silencers = 96pts

Scorch + fanatical = 35pts

Total = 200pts

Edited July 28 by wurms

[Laminidas 83]

Looks like Luke Skywalker (X-Wing) didn't get his Light Side keyword...

[Hiemfire 7,292]

1 hour ago, wurms said:

Dash = 85pts - hyperspace legal

Hyperspace and Extended both have legality columns, Dash is still not Hyperspace legal. (Well trolled though if that was your intention  )

Diamond Borons are though which gives Seps more options (only faction with hyperspace legal ships that have the requisite 2 missile slots).

Edited July 28 by Hiemfire

[Frimmel 2,593]

Official Squad-builder has the new points. It is showing the new points when you click on a saved list but the saved-list list shows the old total. 

There's also this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZHS1_OSPGV5RWggEaJ6nZoZUxYX8LBQxRVLYT_u50NY/edit#gid=1093125696

[ClassicalMoser 4,018]

Guys there's only two things I care about right now:

1. Ezra is strictly better on a small base than VTG! Actually almost all Ezras look pretty decent now!

2. Missiles got a much-needed buff! Honestly though, Prockets were probably fine and underpriced TIE/sf PS is going to make FFG nuke missiles again so I'm prepared to retreat into a corner of sadness.

And cannons are still super-stupid-dumb-priced and mostly worthless.

And talent generics are still super-stupid-dumb-priced on most chassis (looking at you, TIE Bomber! Who would ever pay 3 points for I3 and a talent?)

[Hiemfire 7,292]

7 minutes ago, Frimmel said:

Official Squad-builder has the new points. It is showing the new points when you click on a saved list but the saved-list list shows the old total. 

There's also this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZHS1_OSPGV5RWggEaJ6nZoZUxYX8LBQxRVLYT_u50NY/edit#gid=1093125696

Interesting. It seems Moldy Crow title is missing from the S&V pdf and their program caught it. Still 18 pts for those curious and listed in the Rebel pdf as being both Reb and Scum.

[Hiemfire 7,292]

4 minutes ago, ClassicalMoser said:

Prockets were probably fine

Maybe, how often were they taken? Not very from what I've seen so the 1 point reduction in cost might be Max fishing for more data on them to be generated.