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So, decided to take the plunge and (try) to source a clone wars core box. Eventually got one from Norway( they are selling for £150 on eBay uk).  Where is all the stock for this game?  Very difficult to get into it when you can barely make an 800 point build with current levels of availability.

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It’s a perfect storm of Asmodee incompetence combined with a pandemic disrupting all the supplies.

If you can source a second core box, you have 800 points of republic.

10 people have phase 2 clones ; that release was a disaster

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On 6/22/2020 at 11:16 PM, crogafette said:

So, decided to take the plunge and (try) to source a clone wars core box. Eventually got one from Norway( they are selling for £150 on eBay uk).  Where is all the stock for this game?  Very difficult to get into it when you can barely make an 800 point build with current levels of availability.

if youre UK based Zatu games are taking pre orders for a restock of clone wars core sets. about £68 at the moment but their prices fluctuate wildly. 

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7 minutes ago, Alan Noir said:

if youre UK based Zatu games are taking pre orders for a restock of clone wars core sets. about £68 at the moment but their prices fluctuate wildly. 

Issue is they've been doing that for months... God knows what their backlog is like...

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I believe that restock is hitting Zatu on for about 2nd of July  , my friend has an order of 2 clones wars core sets and got confirmation from them. With Mr Bane and Mistress Amidala being mid July with Bx and Arcs.

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1 hour ago, syrath said:

I believe that restock is hitting Zatu on for about 2nd of July  , my friend has an order of 2 clones wars core sets and got confirmation from them. With Mr Bane and Mistress Amidala being mid July with Bx and Arcs.

Would be pretty sweet if true and other places are getting restock. Got a few new people interested in the local area and they are interested in the Prequel factions.

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8 hours ago, syrath said:

I believe that restock is hitting Zatu on for about 2nd of July  , my friend has an order of 2 clones wars core sets and got confirmation from them. With Mr Bane and Mistress Amidala being mid July with Bx and Arcs.

Great, I paid for about 6 things in advance. Hopefully wont be too long

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I ordered two CW cores at the end of last year, they arrived in April. And that was through Dark Sphere in the UK, who have a decent rep and only ever failed me once before(GW shorted them stock on the Liber Chaotica hardback).

At this point you pretty much have to accept that waiting around for them to be actually in stock somewhere is folly, because any stock they get is going right back out the door to fulfill their backlog of preorders, you just have to preorder yourself and settle in for several months.

 

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I really wish that FFG would address the game-killing problems with distribution. The FLGS that I work at has lost 12 regulars with tournament lists, 3 weekly events, and the community because product is unobtainable. If they just MENTIONED the problems, acknowledged the failures and gave any kind of eta... people would bother sticking around

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@Showcase Nate Given that 1st edition X-Wing and Armada had/have similar issues, yet they still kept/keep selling, these aren't "game killing" issues as far as FFG is concerned. Primarily because of the Star Wars license I'm sure, but so long as they are the sole license holders for Star Wars miniatures games, they will keep selling models. 

 

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11 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

I cannot imagine abandoning a hobby and a community because the stock is hard to find.

Nor I, but what has to be remembered is that for some people the hobby in question is "wargaming" in general, their primary concern is going through the process of collecting armies and then playing lots of games with them, and they're not actually all that attached to specific systems or IPs so long as they can do that. When you can't expand your army and recruiting new players to your group is difficult due to the stock issues, such people will just sell up and move on(or go back to 40K which, whatever else can be said about it, is pretty reliable in terms of finding games and being given regular opportunities to buy new stuff). It's the same mentality that makes it so difficult to get traction with more "niche" games unless you have a regular group/club with likeminded folk in it - unless they can walk into any game store, club, or living room in the country and find a pickup game, some people simply aren't interested.

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@Yodhrin That's true. On the other end of the spectrum are the people who still play Battlefleet Gothic, Mordheim, and kept playing Bloodbowl after official support dried up. 
By the logic of "easy to find games," then historical wargaming should be the most popular type. Models are easy to find (multiple companies, including plastic kits), since the rulesets share the models in common, and given the number of rulesets it should be easy to find a game to play that uses your models, even if it isn't the same game that is popular at a different store. 

Edited by Caimheul1313

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@Caimheul1313 is right about historical games. 
 

A lot of people don’t realize they aren’t actually into gaming. What they are into is chasing fashion. Not the fashion of clothing or music, like teenagers at the mall, but fashion in games. 
 

The point of fashion is to be always changing to something, anything, newer. 
 

I reject this in my life, as a recipe for unhappiness. 
 

Wargaming, in particular, I can’t imagine taking so casually that I would play with unpainted models and sell them as soon as something newer comes out. 

Edited by TauntaunScout

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Oh I firmly agree, I'm one of those 90's specialist game grogs @Caimheul1313 mentions, I'm just saying they're a factor for better or worse, in the same way as the "MMO locusts" were a big deal for that market until it nosedived. Though thankfully the fact wargames aren't dependent on company-run servers means their behaviour can never fully kill off old games in the way they did with anything that wasn't WoW.

 

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It's kinda sad that players have to order the Clone Wars Legion core set from other countries just to be able to play the game.

I didn't buy into Clone Wars right away, but I'm glad I got it before it sold out most places.

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The pandemic definitely disrupted things, but let's not kid ourselves supply chain has always been a weakness of FFG.

You get a great product, with what used to be unreal customer service but now I believe they shifted the blame to the LGS?, but you have to be very very patient lol.

Edited by FrogTrigger

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My gaming group has stagnated because we can't get new clone wars stock.

B2's and P2's are out of stock and we haven't gotten the new special forces/ops yet.
Players want to be competitive, to know they aren't getting screwed by a 'meta' inherent in the game system.
They also want new stuff for their clone wars factions and have variety in list designs, to spice things up.

Because clone wars has stalled (players in my area mostly aren't interested in civil war), we've started looking at other games to play.

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On 6/30/2020 at 11:22 AM, TauntaunScout said:

The point of fashion is to be always changing to something, anything, newer. 
 

I reject this in my life, as a recipe for unhappiness. 

Quoted for emphasis.

This was a life lesson I had to come to terms with. For me, over in xwing, it was about making sure I was always “relevant” and able to compete. Now in 2.0, there’s more options that stay viable so it’s not as bad. I just find games I enjoy and keep playing with my ships.

Legion is now at a point in my area that I have to home-game it to find that casual attitude. Everyone at the LGS pre virus was a meta monster. It’s too niche a game to find the casuals. I buy minis I want to paint, and then don’t sweat it anymore. I haven’t played in over a year, though planning on changing that later this month. Just that hard to get my legion casuals together

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48 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

Quoted for emphasis.

This was a life lesson I had to come to terms with. For me, over in xwing, it was about making sure I was always “relevant” and able to compete. Now in 2.0, there’s more options that stay viable so it’s not as bad. I just find games I enjoy and keep playing with my ships.

Legion is now at a point in my area that I have to home-game it to find that casual attitude. Everyone at the LGS pre virus was a meta monster. It’s too niche a game to find the casuals. I buy minis I want to paint, and then don’t sweat it anymore. I haven’t played in over a year, though planning on changing that later this month. Just that hard to get my legion casuals together

This is an unfortunate thing that happens in many wargames. I don't fully understand the meta chasers given most people aren't going to World's. Is winning enjoyable? Yes, but so is a fun game with units you like. If there isn't an tournament in the next month, that's the time to experiment, or run scenario games. 

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