Lemmings to the Slaughter (mafia)

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:

 

Don't do that to LP.

TL;DR it's a toxic trash fire.

[Lord Preyer 556]

4 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

 

Whoa. That’s a chunk of my life I’m never getting back. I am now more convinced than ever that the correct decision was made yesterday. 
 

Oh, and also: ##roleconfirm.

[Lord Preyer 556]

2 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Don't do that to LP.

TL;DR it's a toxic trash fire.

It’s... TOO LATE!🔥 🛩💥

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

Well, I'm convinced. Where's the cliff?

##vote @Ginkapo

 

[Lord Preyer 556]

23 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:

1 hour left.

People who are here and on a train:

@CaribbeanNinja

@GhostofNobodyInParticular

Me

People who aren't here but voted:

@EbonHawk

@Bertie Wooster

@Ginkapo

 

People who are not here and haven't voted:

@Madaghmire

@FortyInRed

@Reavern

@ovinomanc3r (has checked in since the game started)

@Lord Preyer

 

@Ginkapo You ready to move when needed if others don't show up?

Because I intend to push you and Ovi as policy kills if my concerns are proven right.

This is helpful. 
 

Ultimately, Bertie ,ebon, jabba, gnip, ninja , Mad (hammer) all voted Rev whilst Gink at least had a vote on the board. But Ovi posted and didn’t vote, Fourty posted and didn’t vote. And I missed D1 entirely (again, apologies). 
 

So some posts from @ovi and @FortyInRed would be helpful for Reads please. And votes on the board too! 

[Lord Preyer 556]

@Ginkapo I have Read @The Jabbawookie game quite carefully just now. And I see a lot of Townfulness - D1 organising, data gathering, corralling votes (including I believe asking if you would be prepared to help if it came down to it) and then a burst of feeling that reads both true and Town to me. 

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

5 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Well, I'm convinced. Where's the cliff?

##vote @Ginkapo

 

Haven't you heard? That train got switched to the Ovi line 🙂

[Lord Preyer 556]

I would like more votes on @Ginkapo as I am not seeing this as Town-Gink. What’s your take on things @ebon hawk please?

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:

Haven't you heard? That train got switched to the Ovi line 🙂

I do still read Gink's actions as potentially scummy.

But at least he's active and pushing.

 

What are your reads right now?

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

8 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Haven't you heard? That train got switched to the Ovi line 🙂

It strikes me that that is a passing fad.

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

5 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:

I would like more votes on @Ginkapo as I am not seeing this as Town-Gink. What’s your take on things @ebon hawk please?

@EbonHawk. ebon hawk is an old account of his which he forgot the password to, apparently. 

[FortyInRed 380]

Hey all I'm here. Agree Gink is sounding scummy. If we lynch him and we're wrong then Jabba next?

 

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

1 minute ago, FortyInRed said:

Hey all I'm here. Agree Gink is sounding scummy. If we lynch him and we're wrong then Jabba next?

 

While I did spitefully ask for MAD, hearing someone else try to plot out our next 2 daykills sounds... not so great.

 

What's your reasoning?

[Lord Preyer 556]

5 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

Hey all I'm here. Agree Gink is sounding scummy. If we lynch him and we're wrong then Jabba next?

 

Ummm. Do you mean to try to line up kills like that? Question is: Slip or Tell?

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

8 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

But at least he's active and pushing.

 

What are your reads right now?

This, pretty much.  

I'm as good a lemming as any, but I'm more curious about the followers on the vote.

There is still some hardcore absenteeism, but at least Forty showed up... and then what'd he do?

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

##vote Forty

[FortyInRed 380]

6 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

While I did spitefully ask for MAD, hearing someone else try to plot out our next 2 daykills sounds... not so great.

 

What's your reasoning?

Mostly to see how serious you are. It's cool to say you'll die for the cause, but will you?

It was mostly to try to get a consensus but apparently all I've done is paint a target in my back so gg 

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

Just now, FortyInRed said:

Mostly to see how serious you are. It's cool to say you'll die for the cause, but will you?

It was mostly to try to get a consensus but apparently all I've done is paint a target in my back so gg 

From a purely mechanical standpoint that's a fair angle.

On the other hand, the level of certainty required for that to be a genuine play clearly wasn't there.  You'll notice two of my reasons for it were "stick it to Gink," and the third was meta.  So I wasn't acting for the cause, I was just being a jerk.

 

But if you're ready to gg, I'll oblige.

##vote FortyInRed

[FortyInRed 380]

7 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

From a purely mechanical standpoint that's a fair angle.

On the other hand, the level of certainty required for that to be a genuine play clearly wasn't there.  You'll notice two of my reasons for it were "stick it to Gink," and the third was meta.  So I wasn't acting for the cause, I was just being a jerk.

 

But if you're ready to gg, I'll oblige.

##vote FortyInRed

What do you mean level of certainty?

I'm checking in after a long day of work trying to see what I missed. I see you willing to die for the cause and I applaud that. I'm just making sure others caught that too in case Gink flips town.

Note that I didn't actually vote though and frankly I'm shocked that this is all it took to start a train on me

It's a wasted effort as I'm town but you do you. My win condition says nothing about me being alive at the end. 

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

5 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

What do you mean level of certainty?

I'm checking in after a long day of work trying to see what I missed. I see you willing to die for the cause and I applaud that. I'm just making sure others caught that too in case Gink flips town.

Note that I didn't actually vote though and frankly I'm shocked that this is all it took to start a train on me

It's a wasted effort as I'm town but you do you. My win condition says nothing about me being alive at the end. 

In order to make a sacrifice play, one should have a very high level of certainty that the other player is scum.  Otherwise it wastes 2 days and 2 town players, which is devastating.

Though we disagree, neither Ginkapo nor I have met that level of certainty.  I didn't make that request because it was a good choice, I did it because I was annoyed with him.

The wincon is slightly to your favor, because it checks out.  More importantly, even though the detail is standard and easy to bluff you'd be risking everything on the chance Pod broke convention.

##unvote for now

[CaribbeanNinja 6,207]

37 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

Hey all I'm here. Agree Gink is sounding scummy. If we lynch him and we're wrong then Jabba next?

 

11 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

 frankly I'm shocked that this is all it took to start a train on me

its the first post, above.  I thought GNIPs was going to earn my vote, but it set off way too many alarm bells for me.

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

3 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

its the first post, above.  I thought GNIPs was going to earn my vote, but it set off way too many alarm bells for me.

I was in a fickle mood when making the vote. *Shrug* I haven't seen any decent reason to switch my vote though. I think @FortyInRed's post about voting Jabba was innocent enough, even if I don't condone the sentiment.

[EbonHawk 1,243]

1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

@EbonHawk. ebon hawk is an old account of his which he forgot the password to, apparently. 

yes

[EbonHawk 1,243]

1 hour ago, FortyInRed said:

Hey all I'm here. Agree Gink is sounding scummy. If we lynch him and we're wrong then Jabba next?

 

##vote FortyInRed, pushing my town suspects

[FortyInRed 380]

1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

##vote FortyInRed, pushing my town suspects

Translation: voting someone because they didn't agree with my assessment....