Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
PivotmasterDM1

What should FFG do about allies as heroes and vice versa?

Recommended Posts

Signature allies are some of the strongest cards in the game so to reduce it to just a wild resource is actually pretty big deal. Also, in this specific case, Captain Marvel's best deck imo, is Avengers Leadership which needs Spiderwoman as an Avengers Ally.

That said, the ally is really only important if you care about min-maxing. And if you care about min-maxing then you are probably fine with picking a different hero. If you are a casual group and people are just playing their favorite hero, then your signature ally becoming a resource really isn't going to matter.

It would be nice to see a replacement card because otherwise, I would rather pick a different hero than play the 2 together but that doesn't really bother me and I really can't see them doing it.
 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Palpster said:

What if the hero’s Alter Ego name differed in some way from the ally subtitle? That would make them playable together, right? 

But... they’re not gonna do it? It’s definitely still Jessica Drew on that art, so she’ll still be Jessica Drew.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, zeromage said:

Maybe they’ll create “replacement cards” for heroes like they did in Arkham. It could be a way to fix bad heroes like thor as well.

Thor is a fantastic hero with strong abilities and very powerful signature cards.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, SpiderMana said:

But... they’re not gonna do it? It’s definitely still Jessica Drew on that art, so she’ll still be Jessica Drew.

But if they mention “Jessie Drew” or “Ms. Jessica Drew” that would still work 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Palpster said:

But if they mention “Jessie Drew” or “Ms. Jessica Drew” that would still work 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

That would defeat the purpose of using subtitles/alter-ego names. The whole point of that system is to avoid having multiples of the same person on the table at once.

There is absolutely nothing stopping you from playing with two Jessica Drew cards at once, if you want. It’s a Co-op game, House-ruling things is totally fine. But the game is not currently designed to have two versions of Jessica Drew on the table at once, regardless of what nickname you feel like giving her.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How would the people who are concerned about this feel if FFG made an official ruling that a hero and ally version of the same character can be in play at the same time (but not two allies or two heroes with the same name)? They could call it the Multiverse Rule or something. Would that fix the issue in your eyes or still be problematic? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
29 minutes ago, 2morrow said:

How would the people who are concerned about this feel if FFG made an official ruling that a hero and ally version of the same character can be in play at the same time (but not two allies or two heroes with the same name)? They could call it the Multiverse Rule or something. Would that fix the issue in your eyes or still be problematic? 

They aren’t gonna do this. There’s no reason for them to do this. There’s nothing stopping you from playing this way yourself.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The thing some people are completely ignoring is that Spiderwoman is good for Captain Marvel in solo play only! And only in leadership at that. Which should tell people she’s not actually that good unless you can constantly get her back with Make the Call because she wouldn’t normal stick around that much.

In multiplayer her value is lessened because you have an entire other player and their deck working with you! The value lost for Captain Marvel is microscopic compared to gaining a new hero and their 15 signature cards. And the same would be true for Spiderwoman with a Captain Marvel signature ally. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Hyperjayman said:

The thing some people are completely ignoring is that Spiderwoman is good for Captain Marvel in solo play only! And only in leadership at that. Which should tell people she’s not actually that good unless you can constantly get her back with Make the Call because she wouldn’t normal stick around that much.

In multiplayer her value is lessened because you have an entire other player and their deck working with you! The value lost for Captain Marvel is microscopic compared to gaining a new hero and their 15 signature cards. And the same would be true for Spiderwoman with a Captain Marvel signature ally. 

Confusion is a great status effect, and that’s before the 4 threat removal she can do. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
On 3/19/2020 at 4:22 PM, Derrault said:

That would create a backwards compatibility issue. The simplest solution is to include a replacement ally in every hero that was previously a signature ally (or where they become a signature ally).

I would think they would want to avoid another signature ally as 3-player mode is just another issue waiting to happen.  They could make a Julia Carpenter , but what happens when you want to run all 3?

Seems to me a cantrip (0 Cost draw a card action) or perhaps a double energy signature card would make more sense.  Or simple just a simple action card.

For example a 0 cost action (with alternatively double wild energy) that gives you the AERIAL Trait until the end of turn and lets you draw a card would be a solid idea.

 

Or perhaps an interesting 2 or 3 cost action.

Edited by IceHot42

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

My speculation by the way is that the two once upon a time bad guys are converted (accessed) to Heroes by unlocking them through the scenarios..similar to unlocking Arwen as an Ally card by completing the two scenarios that ended with Road to Rivendell.

Edited by IceHot42

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@IceHot42
"My speculation by the way is that the two once upon a time bad guys are converted (accessed) to Heroes by unlocking them through the scenarios..similar to unlocking Arwen as an Ally card by completing the two scenarios that ended with Road to Rivendell."

Like in a Legacy style game? I guess that could be fun if 'unlocking' them was part of a story mode (i.e. depending on the outcome of a scenario, you either play as Hawkeye or Spider-Woman?)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, yuccaflo said:

It will just become a ressource card. 

Yep.  Confirmed in the livestream.  The plan is not to let an existing signature ally or nemesis prevent them from releasing a character or villain.  So, yes, if you play Spider-Woman and Captain Marvel together, the Spider-Woman ally can only be used as a resource card.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...