Hyperspace Migration [Mafia]

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

I can see the logic.  I can't put my finger on why I've been scum reading Forty this game, but I have.  Something for postgame analysis, I suppose.  And Ebon was on the train.

##unvote

##vote Ebon

[GhostofNobodyInParticular 2,493]

That is L-1, isn't it?

@EbonHawk you might want to speak up.

 

I am inclined to vote for Ebon too, but for obvious reasons will not vote yet.

[EbonHawk 1,243]

10 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

That is L-1, isn't it?

@EbonHawk you might want to speak up.

 

I am inclined to vote for Ebon too, but for obvious reasons will not vote yet.

wait there's a train on me lol lemme catch up

[EbonHawk 1,243]

21 hours ago, Matt3412 said:

I will visit ebon. 

I did not get fruit. (I know he died but it didn't come thorugh before he did)

1 hour ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Alright, I think it’s time to put my cards on the table.

I’m the weak doc.

Matt was town (protected N1 for fear of retaliation.)

GNIPs is town because I’m still here today.

I’m town because nobody’s going to counterclaim or they’re sealing their faction’s lynch-all-liars death warrant.

That leaves Ebon, Forty and Ovi.  In light of Mad’s town flip I have chosen to trust Ovi and recommend hanging Forty and Ebon.

Getting us to this point was worth it in my eyes, especially given my shady play thus far.  If someone has more info, now is probably the time, but given the setup I expect this is the best we’ll get.

##vote @FortyInRed Going back to old suspicions, bolstered by process of elimination.

Yes no one could counter claim, BUT scum can lie. Your word is not gospel per your role, unless I missed a cop scan??

Also yes I hung mad, but I thought he was a good shot after CV. If you trust ovi then it should be forty.

39 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Damm it, I could clear Matt cause he visited me, if you claimed and some else died instead it was done.

However it must be Forty or Ebon. Between Forty and Ebon I'd go with Ebon, mostly due to las day strategy.

Matt was obviously targeted by the remaining scum. I explained to Forty how framing wasn't a real option for scum so either he is bluffing like a boss (with no real effect) or he is town.

On the other hand Ebon was being visited by Matt himself. From his point of view, if Matt wasn't the doc he was "safe" and he could kill whoever he wanted. But if Matt was the doc and he killed someone else he was screwed. His only sure option was to kill Matt just in case he was doc.

##vote Ebon

Okay, I mean I thought mad slipped as did others. Both Matt and Jabba if you believe him as town agreed with Mad. 

 

I'm VT you'd be sealing your own fates by hanging me, I've done my bit helping get CV and didn't hit home on Mad. Anyone got a perfect record here?

[EbonHawk 1,243]

39 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

I can see the logic.  I can't put my finger on why I've been scum reading Forty this game, but I have.  Something for postgame analysis, I suppose.  And Ebon was on the train.

##unvote

##vote Ebon

Hmm if you're lying about your role, totally possible this is just angling for a kill now regardless of which faction wins. 

Nips reads town becuase he's waiting, your wanting. You couldn't get forty so now you'll try me? Let's win now instead of analysing why we lost??

If you're town vote forty, if your scum then GG 

[EbonHawk 1,243]

##vote @FortyInRed

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

Hmm if you're lying about your role, totally possible this is just angling for a kill now regardless of which faction wins. 

Nips reads town becuase he's waiting, your wanting. You couldn't get forty so now you'll try me? Let's win now instead of analysing why we lost??

If you're town vote forty, if your scum then GG 

For that to be true (A. there'd be no doc, and (B. I would have had to blindly guess and commit to that fact.

Both of which are not only false, but implausible.

And then you try to deflect away from this by doing a 180 and voting Forty, the other guy on the list?

Now I agree with Ovi that Forty's earned his spot behind you in line.

[FortyInRed 380]

Wait what did I do wrong here?

I've made no suspicious claims or statements. I haven't been caught lying. Why am I the one who it has to be? 😪

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

Just now, FortyInRed said:

Wait what did I do wrong here?

I've made no suspicious claims or statements. I haven't been caught lying. Why am I the one who it has to be? 😪

Well, GNIPs and I are basically cleared, as shown upthread.

And by necessity, I trust Ovi more than I trust you or Ebon because he made my N2 decision safer and easier with his doc scheme and he turned away from the Mads train.

So good news!  Out of the two people that leaves, you're now only my second choice for scum!

[FortyInRed 380]

2 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:

I’m the weak doc.

Matt was town (protected N1 for fear of retaliation.)

GNIPs is town because I’m still here today.

I’m town because nobody’s going to counterclaim or they’re sealing their faction’s lynch-all-liars death warrant

Either I don't get it, or this seems paper thin to me. We're supposed to take you at your word but not me?

You have a feeling about me, ok. Look back at the thread. What have I done to justify said feeling?

 

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

2 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

Either I don't get it, or this seems paper thin to me. We're supposed to take you at your word but not me?

You have a feeling about me, ok. Look back at the thread. What have I done to justify said feeling?

 

You aren't supposed to take me at my word.  The facts are in the setup.

I have claimed to be the weak doc.

Nobody else has claimed to be the weak doc.

There is exactly 1 weak doc in this game.

On 3/14/2020 at 5:33 AM, Bertie Wooster said:

4 Vanilla Towns, everything else is 1.

Which, btw, discredits @EbonHawk's earlier speculation.

Scum can't claim weak doc because the real weak doc speaks up, and they lose at 3 players even if town gets tricked.

Capisce?

[EbonHawk 1,243]

31 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Now I agree with Ovi that Forty's earned his spot behind you in line.

Disagree, Ovi has built that on the assumption I would kill matt. Not only is that flawed, but country to what I would do if scum

[EbonHawk 1,243]

3 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

You aren't supposed to take me at my word.  The facts are in the setup.

I have claimed to be the weak doc.

Nobody else has claimed to be the weak doc.

There is exactly 1 weak doc in this game.

Which, btw, discredits @EbonHawk's earlier speculation.

Scum can't claim weak doc because the real weak doc speaks up, and they lose at 3 players even if town gets tricked.

Capisce?

I forgot this was an open setup duhh, yeah jab your good if you can trust me we can take this home for town. 

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

Just now, EbonHawk said:

Disagree, Ovi has built that on the assumption I would kill matt. Not only is that flawed, but country to what I would do if scum

I'm not using his reasoning, I'm basing it on that attempt at a defense.  Shady as heck, especially now that I went back and read the setup wording.

My claim is absolutely the gospel now.  GNIPs being clear is also the gospel.

Forty and Ovino are the only two people you could push right now.

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

I forgot this was an open setup duhh, yeah jab your good if you can trust me we can take this home for town. 

I don't, but am glad we're on the same page at least.

[EbonHawk 1,243]

3 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

I'm not using his reasoning, I'm basing it on that attempt at a defense.  Shady as heck, especially now that I went back and read the setup wording.

My claim is absolutely the gospel now.  GNIPs being clear is also the gospel.

Forty and Ovino are the only two people you could push right now.

fair enough, I'm not used to playing open setups and can't say I've read it until just now. Also yes I was shading you but it was merely a hypothetical that if it wasn't forty it could be you as you only built around coutner claims, which obviously I now understand seeing open setup.   

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

I did not get fruit. (I know he died but it didn't come thorugh before he did)

Of course you didn't. I did N1. I may weak proof that pointing when he revealed himself to me.

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

Anyone got a perfect record here?

I did.

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

Hmm if you're lying about your role, totally possible this is just angling for a kill now regardless of which faction wins. 

If he is lying where the **** is the true our doc. I'm not. Are you?

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

43 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

Wait what did I do wrong here?

I've made no suspicious claims or statements. I haven't been caught lying. Why am I the one who it has to be? 😪

Nothing wrong you did. You're just one of the unknowns.

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

Just now, ovinomanc3r said:

If he is lying where the **** is the true our doc. I'm not. Are you?

He's been set straight on this stuff already.

Doesn't make him innocent, but pretty sure nobody's doubting that angle anymore.  @FortyInRed, you understand the situation now, right?

[FortyInRed 380]

21 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

GNIPs being clear is also the gospel.

Care to explain?

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

33 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

Either I don't get it, or this seems paper thin to me. We're supposed to take you at your word but not me?

Because no one else counterclaim.

[ovinomanc3r 4,436]

28 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

.

I have claimed to be the weak doc.

Nobody else has claimed to be the weak doc.

I guess I did but doesn't count. I came with a fake just before XD

[The Jabbawookie 5,610]

Just now, FortyInRed said:

Care to explain?

I did.

You get that I'm the weak doc, based on the Mod's setup info, right?

And I visited GNIPs.  Had he been scum, I would have died because of the role.

That was the point of Ovi's mass fakeclaim: if the weak doc protected scum by mistake, we could trace who they died to.