Desslok 13,571 Posted February 11 (edited) Shocked that nobody mentioned this yet: Starships and Speeders is shipping. As these things inevitably wind up in our hands early-ish, I thought I'd give us the spoiler space so we can all bask some poor bastards' good fortune! Also, lets ask Crazy Ralph about the future of the RPG: Ah, damnit Ralph! Edited February 11 by Desslok 3 1 2 Mistervimes, Oldmike1, RuusMarev and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldmike1 77 Posted February 11 I am happy to see an update as far as new books the only thing I can see them doing is making a race book or a book for the old republic(if they are even allowed to do so) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banditks 48 Posted February 11 I would love to know what is in that book. so many rebel and imperial ships have no stats to them. A great opportunity to add them in, which they probably didn't take advantage of. I would also love to see an old republic book set but again i doubt it with people laid off from that department. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andreievitch 356 Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Oldmike1 said: I am happy to see an update as far as new books the only thing I can see them doing is making a race book or a book for the old republic(if they are even allowed to do so) Given there a zero staff working on the Star Wars RPG line, I think there is no chance of this @Deslok's bleak vision of doom is looking likely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luahk 161 Posted February 12 I'm still fairly bummed out but i people could let us know roughly whats in it once its in hands? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldmike1 77 Posted February 12 2 hours ago, Andreievitch said: Given there a zero staff working on the Star Wars RPG line, I think there is no chance of this @Deslok's bleak vision of doom is looking likely. well a book for all the different aliens just needs someone who can cut and paste thou anything more needs at lest one guy who can wright Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daeglan 5,950 Posted February 12 2 hours ago, Andreievitch said: Given there a zero staff working on the Star Wars RPG line, I think there is no chance of this @Deslok's bleak vision of doom is looking likely. We don't actually know that. We do know know how many if any freelancers are working on things or not. And we will likely not know that for a while. But given the announcements for the X-wing and Legion likely means the license is alive and well. Which means the RPG stays with FFG for the moment. But we also know they said the line was slowing down. And given books take a year from freelance assignment to book on the shelf this change likely wont show any changes for probably 10 months. as any books already beyond manuscript will likely still come out. as you dont wast the money you already expended on a product. especially given where the Star Wars RPG is ranked in the top 5. I am looking to march to see if we get any announcements, 1 Mistervimes reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inquisitor Tremayne 424 Posted February 12 I just hope there are images with all of the listed ships. It is daunting searching google for images that could be some of these ships. 4 Mistervimes, Zuldan, Stethemessiah and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mistervimes 164 Posted February 12 12 hours ago, Andreievitch said: Given there a zero staff working on the Star Wars RPG line, I think there is no chance of this @Deslok's bleak vision of doom is looking likely. The line will continue with Freelancers. This is very common in the TTRPG industry. Very few companies have dedicated RPG employees. 1 Ogrebear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HappyDaze 10,101 Posted February 12 Has anyone that preordered actually received a shipping notice yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mistervimes 164 Posted February 12 (edited) 16 hours ago, Oldmike1 said: I am happy to see an update as far as new books the only thing I can see them doing is making a race book or a book for the old republic(if they are even allowed to do so) More setting books probably. There's a lot to cover: Period between RotS and ANH Cold War Era (particularly "The Mandalorian") The New Trilogy/Resistance The High Republic Era (which we'll learn more about with the Star Wars Project Luminous on February 24) More Clone Wars stuff (since a new season is coming) FFG has the license, sales numbers have been as good as can be expected, and they've moved to a freelancer model. So, probably two or three books a year as long as they have a license. Catalyst Games has been following this model with Shadowrun for over a decade and they don't make nearly the money that FFG makes. Edited February 12 by Mistervimes closed parenthesis 1 Voltron64 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stan Fresh 2,465 Posted February 12 19 minutes ago, Mistervimes said: Catalyst Games has been following this model with Shadowrun for over a decade and they don't make nearly the money that FFG makes. That company is not a model anyone should follow. They've released sub-standard products and have used freelancers' work without paying them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daggertx 88 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Stan Fresh said: That company is not a model anyone should follow. They've released sub-standard products and have used freelancers' work without paying them. Wizards has the same model. Not paying people has nothing to do with that. 2 Vestij Jai Galaar and Mistervimes reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mistervimes 164 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Stan Fresh said: That company is not a model anyone should follow. They've released sub-standard products and have used freelancers' work without paying them. First example that came to mind. My point is that I am hard pressed to name a gaming company that has a full time RPG writing staff as employees. Freelancers are the norm, not the exception. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daeglan 5,950 Posted February 12 2 hours ago, Mistervimes said: More setting books probably. There's a lot to cover: Period between RotS and ANH Cold War Era (particularly "The Mandalorian") The New Trilogy/Resistance The High Republic Era (which we'll learn more about with the Star Wars Project Luminous on February 24) More Clone Wars stuff (since a new season is coming) FFG has the license, sales numbers have been as good as can be expected, and they've moved to a freelancer model. So, probably two or three books a year as long as they have a license. Catalyst Games has been following this model with Shadowrun for over a decade and they don't make nearly the money that FFG makes. Dawn of Rebellion covers between RotS and ANH. More clone wars stuff could be cool. Maybe a region book like Suns of fortune covering Seperatist planets. and another covering republic loyal planets. A nexus of power book for F&D focusing on Darkside places. 2 Oldmike1 and Mistervimes reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mistervimes 164 Posted February 12 Just now, Daeglan said: Dawn of Rebellion covers between RotS and ANH. Good call out. I think of that as the "Rebels" book, but you're right. Quote A nexus of power book for F&D focusing on Darkside places. That's a great idea. 1 1 Weyoun42 and Daeglan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weyoun42 91 Posted February 12 5 hours ago, Daeglan said: A nexus of power book for F&D focusing on Darkside places. In a similar vein, I had wanted a companion to Strongholds of Resistance with details on Imperial worlds, bases, shipyards, and the like too. Maybe some detail on the military hierarchy and moffs. But, I've always been fascinated by the Empire. 1 Mistervimes reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daeglan 5,950 Posted February 12 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Weyoun42 said: In a similar vein, I had wanted a companion to Strongholds of Resistance with details on Imperial worlds, bases, shipyards, and the like too. Maybe some detail on the military hierarchy and moffs. But, I've always been fascinated by the Empire. Bastions of the Empire Edited February 12 by Daeglan 2 Rimsen and Mistervimes reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RookiePilot 636 Posted February 12 9 hours ago, Mistervimes said: More setting books probably. There's a lot to cover: Period between RotS and ANH Cold War Era (particularly "The Mandalorian") The New Trilogy/Resistance The High Republic Era (which we'll learn more about with the Star Wars Project Luminous on February 24) More Clone Wars stuff (since a new season is coming) FFG has the license, sales numbers have been as good as can be expected, and they've moved to a freelancer model. So, probably two or three books a year as long as they have a license. Catalyst Games has been following this model with Shadowrun for over a decade and they don't make nearly the money that FFG makes. I want to believe... 1 Voltron64 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mistervimes 164 Posted February 12 39 minutes ago, RookiePilot said: I want to believe... So, believe. Aside from random internet doomsayers, there's no reason not to believe. The market is there, FFG said they'd keep publishing, and Asmodee said they'd keep publishing. All indicators say that they'll keep publishing. 3 Donovan Morningfire, Jegergryte and Voltron64 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andreievitch 356 Posted February 13 11 hours ago, Mistervimes said: ...and they've moved to a freelancer model This is assumptive at best. Unless you have source showing that they are using freelancers. The last Forge podcast had Sam Gregor-Stewart and Keith Kappel in it and they were talking like there are no freelancers working on any products. If they aren't involved then I dare say no one is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daggertx 88 Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Mistervimes said: So, believe. Aside from random internet doomsayers, there's no reason not to believe. The market is there, FFG said they'd keep publishing, and Asmodee said they'd keep publishing. All indicators say that they'll keep publishing. I think they said they would publish the products already announced... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldmike1 77 Posted February 13 17 minutes ago, daggertx said: I think they said they would publish the products already announced... if that's what they said then the line is soon to be reprints only (in some ways its good as no need to worry about rebuying books) if true I need to think if there is any more books I NEED as there are 8 class books and 1 core I don't have yet and I don't have any of the extra books made for just one line Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daggertx 88 Posted February 13 Honestly it was not really clear what they meant and frankly was a good use of "PR speak". I am thinking March we should hear something either way... 1 Stethemessiah reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daeglan 5,950 Posted February 13 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Oldmike1 said: if that's what they said then the line is soon to be reprints only (in some ways its good as no need to worry about rebuying books) if true I need to think if there is any more books I NEED as there are 8 class books and 1 core I don't have yet and I don't have any of the extra books made for just one line Im sure there will be more. But their options were limitted in what they could do. They couldnt do sequel stuff. They cant do old republic stuff. They already have done most of the rebellion era stuff. So i think the did the conpilation books as a stop gap. Edited February 13 by Daeglan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites