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Sith Wayfinder (Rise of Skywalker Spoilers

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15 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Wonder if there are Jedi Wayfinders maybe that would allow you to get to Tython

I believe the compass that Luke found in the campaign of Battlefront II is what led him to Ach-To (and can be seen among other items on Ach-To).

There were only two Sith wayfinders (one for the master, one for the apprentice). I'd guess that there could be more Jedi compasses out there. The wording in the Rise of Skywalker Visual Dictionary (to me, anyway) makes Exegol sound a little more comparable to Ach-To, as it calls out Moraband/Korriban as being too relatively well-known to be a suitable "secret base" for Palpatine. So I think Tython would be more equivalent to Moraband/Korriban and not necessarily require a special artifact to get to.

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ETA: Getting a bit inspired to do a planet sheet for Tython, and looking up information, it appears that not only is it back in canon, but (with me being months behind in reading the Star Wars comics) Doctor Aphra led Vader to Tython in issue 40 of her series, claiming it housed the new Rebel base, redirecting him from Hoth. So, unless I get to that issue and Aphra needed a McGuffin like the compass, it appears no special artifact is necessary to get there.

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15 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

I believe the compass that Luke found in the campaign of Battlefront II is what led him to Ach-To (and can be seen among other items on Ach-To).

There were only two Sith wayfinders (one for the master, one for the apprentice). I'd guess that there could be more Jedi compasses out there. The wording in the Rise of Skywalker Visual Dictionary (to me, anyway) makes Exegol sound a little more comparable to Ach-To, as it calls out Moraband/Korriban as being too relatively well-known to be a suitable "secret base" for Palpatine. So I think Tython would be more equivalent to Moraband/Korriban and not necessarily require a special artifact to get to.

latest?cb=20180617015737

ETA: Getting a bit inspired to do a planet sheet for Tython, and looking up information, it appears that not only is it back in canon, but (with me being months behind in reading the Star Wars comics) Doctor Aphra led Vader to Tython in issue 40 of her series, claiming it housed the new Rebel base, redirecting him from Hoth. So, unless I get to that issue and Aphra needed a McGuffin like the compass, it appears no special artifact is necessary to get there.

I have it I will look it up for you

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1 minute ago, Daeglan said:

I have it I will look it up for you

I've got it, too...I'm just way behind on actually reading them. I think the last issue of Aphra that I've read is 29. The rest are sitting here waiting for me to sit down and read 'em.

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It'd probably be akin to having current astrogation data and pre-plotted calculations, but only to take the ship to Exegol, setting the base difficulty at 1 purple.

The hyperspace energy nebula/maelstrom is probably worth either a bunch of upgrades to the difficulty or a mess of setback dice, but again the wayfinder would negate those, making getting to Exegol pretty easy once you know the way.  It may not be quite as simple if you're using a copy (either downloaded from a ship that's already made the trek through the route or broadcasted by a ship in the process of making the trip), but it'd be a lot easier than not having any sort of navigational data to work from.

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1 minute ago, Vondy said:

I would say the user gets one automatic success on an astrogation check to reach one encoded location.

Probably the first one. but subsequent ones are less assured because of the chaos of skipping

 

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11 hours ago, Edgehawk said:

In the visual dictionary, it is stated that the tech is reverse-engineered from the Purrgil (space-whales from Rebels). 

Well, if the Rakata, the Infinite Empire, and/or the Star Maps ever make it back to canon in some, it'll likely be said that the Star Maps were themselves reverse-engineered from Purrgil brains, and that the Jedi compass and Sith wayfinders are actually offshoots of that technology.

For a GM that's including the Rakata and associated materials into their campaign's canon, that explanation still works.  The compass and wayfinder were both reverse-engineered from the Purgill, however there's perhaps one degree of separation in the form of the Star Maps.

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On 1/5/2020 at 6:05 AM, Donovan Morningfire said:

Well, if the Rakata, the Infinite Empire, and/or the Star Maps ever make it back to canon in some, it'll likely be said that the Star Maps were themselves reverse-engineered from Purrgil brains, and that the Jedi compass and Sith wayfinders are actually offshoots of that technology.

For a GM that's including the Rakata and associated materials into their campaign's canon, that explanation still works.  The compass and wayfinder were both reverse-engineered from the Purgill, however there's perhaps one degree of separation in the form of the Star Maps.

Well the Rakata would have been messed up enough to actually do that sort of horrific experimentation on those endearing purgills...

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