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So I'm trying to decide on a list to play for Separatists in a Skirmish game format. I have these 4 lists currently in mind:

 

498/500

General Grievous (175 + 15 = 190)

--Aggressive Tactics (10), Esteemed Leader (5)

B1 Battle Droids (36 + 0 = 36)

B1 Battle Droids (36 + 0 = 36)

B1 Battle Droids (36 + 0 = 36)

Droideka's (100 + 0 = 100)

Droideka's (100 + 0 = 100)

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500/500

General Grievous (175 + 15 = 190)

--Aggressive Tactics (10), Esteemed Leader (5)

B1 Battle Droids (36 + 18 = 54)

--E-5C B1 Trooper (18)

B1 Battle Droids (36 + 20 = 56)

--E-5s B1 Trooper (20)

Droideka's (100 + 0 = 100)

Droideka's (100 + 0 = 100)

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500/500

Count Dooku (205 + 23 = 228)

--Force Choke (5), Force Reflexes (10), Fear (3), Esteemed Leader (5)

B1 Battle Droids (36 + 0 = 36)

B1 Battle Droids (36 + 0 = 36)

Droidekas (100 + 0 = 100)

Droidekas (100 + 0 = 100)

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498/500

Count Dooku (205 + 25 = 230)

--Force Choke (5), Force Reflexes (10), Battle Meditation (5), Esteemed Leader (5)

B1 Battle Droids (36 + 6 = 42)

--B1 Battle Droid (6)

B1 Battle Droids (36 + 6 = 42)

--B1 Battle Droid (6)

B1 Battle Droids (36 + 6 = 42)

--B1 Battle Droid (6)

B1 Battle Droids (36 + 6 = 42)

--B1 Battle Droid (6)

Droidekas (100 + 0 = 100)

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 I'm not sure which build is the most well rounded overall list going into any particular combination of battle cards. Naturally I would like to lean towards the most activations (6) but also having 2 Droideka seems really good as well, so possibly looking at the first list option.

 

Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding these lists or possibly any other Separatist 500 point Skirmish lists you are currently running?

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Keep in mind I haven't hit the table with them yet, but I would strongly lean towards the lists with Force Guidance or Aggressive Tactics. B1s are a lot of white dice with no surges, so those surge tokens can be really important on offense or defense. The Droidekas don't need them as much (in theory at least) but those B1s need all the help they can get. I am not sure if naked battledroids are better than special weapons, they are the only unit I can think of where this is really a hard call. I hope this helps a little and when I get a game or two in with them I will give you my notes.

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5 hours ago, allistorpreist said:

Keep in mind I haven't hit the table with them yet, but I would strongly lean towards the lists with Force Guidance or Aggressive Tactics. B1s are a lot of white dice with no surges, so those surge tokens can be really important on offense or defense. The Droidekas don't need them as much (in theory at least) but those B1s need all the help they can get. I am not sure if naked battledroids are better than special weapons, they are the only unit I can think of where this is really a hard call. I hope this helps a little and when I get a game or two in with them I will give you my notes.

thanks for the comments, both builds with Grievous have Aggressive tactics in them, I feel its pretty much mandatory in a Grievous list.

will be interested to see how you go with Force guidance, it does mean that you have to activate your commander before your units to get the opportunity to use the surges on attack or ideally again early enough that the units you give the surges to might be able to use them on defence.

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Gotta a 500 pt game planned for Friday with Dooku and guidance. He is expensive so I am field testing him without aggressive tactics, but gotta see them on the table to see. I hadn't thought about two droideka units yet, or 4 naked B1s, but I will probably have more thoughts after this game. 

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I like the look of the second list! I think the B1s need the E-5C to be effective and two sets of Droidekas sounds nasty.

Grievous is pretty nasty on the 3x3 board and 5 activations seems good for 500pts. 

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So based on what I had ready:

  • Dooku:Fear, Force Push, Force Guidance 
  • 2x B1 with E60R
  • B1 with E-5C and 1 extra troop
  • Droideka

So Dooku is a monster. Force push never really got used cause of Scatter. Scatter + You Disappoint Me = Awesome. Force guidance... I should have done Aggressive Tactics. Everyone got hit before I could guidance them and I had to focus on getting Dooku activated where he could have been more clever.

E-60s gave me some range, but AI: Attack meant I was not Recovering and using them like I wanted. The E-5C was reliable. 

I need to learn to drive the Droideka, I kept treating them like infantry.

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