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So here are some predictions for Provinces in this Cycle

  Basic Element Eminent
Crab Shrug off Despair Void Maemikake
Crane   Earth Shizuka Toshi
Dragon   Water Kyuden Tonbo
Lion   Earth Ninkatoshi
Phoenix   Water Kakudaira
Scorpion   Fire Ryoko Owari
Unicorn   Void Khanbulak
       
Air Keeper only   City of the Rich Frog
Earth Seeker only    
Fire      
Void Seeker only    
Water Keeper only    

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1 hour ago, Kaito Kikaze said:

Why would Crane's core box stronghold be reprinted as an eminent province? You actually couldn't even use them together in that case, since they would presumably both be unique. 

That's a remarkably good question.  I have no idea why I type Shizuka Toshi in there.

Possibly I meant Samui Kaze Toshi.

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16 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

That seems unlikely, given that the other eminent cards we know are population centres rather than castles or palaces.

Castles by their nature tend to be population centers, Kandai is a major trade hub, and Seven Folds is a major artisan academy

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Okay, I was wrong twice, so I'm gong to stop with the guessing of Province names.  However, the article gave us some new information.

Set 3 of the Cycle appears to only have 3 1-ofs in it.  I suspect that this means the other 3 are 3 1-ofs as well.  This means that we'll have a total of 24 single cards in the whole Cycle, which is about the right number.  The breakdown of these would be:

  • 7 Clan Provinces (completing the set of elements for each clan)
  • 7 Clan Eminent Provinces
  • 5 Neutral Provinces (completing the set of elements for the Keeper and Seeker provinces)
  • 1+ Neutral Eminent Provinces
  • 1-3 Strongholds (Scorpion, possibly adding Crab, Crane and or Phoenix)
  • 0-3 other things (Holdings or Philosophy events maybe)

That's a total of 136 different cards, and I think it comes out as 18 per Clan + 10 Neutral.  My google sheets go into more detail.  Each additional pack with 6 1-ofs in the last 3 would increase the neutral count by 2, I reckon.

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With the announcement of pack 4 yesterday, I can do just a bit more logic puzzle on the various cards.  Here is where I think we are at the moment:

Pack Card Name Faction Deck Type Traits Rules Cost
14D:1RaW 1 Shrug off Despair   Crab Province Void      
14D:1RaW 2     Crane Province Earth      
14D:1RaW 3     Dragon Province        
14D:1RaW 4 Ninkatoshi Y Lion Province Earth Water City Eminent  
14D:1RaW 5 Kakudaira Y Phoenix Province   City Eminent  
14D:1RaW 6 City of the Rich Frog Y Neutral Province Earth Void City Eminent  
14D:1RaW 7     Crab Dynasty        
14D:1RaW 8 Kakita Yoshi Y Crane Dynasty Character Courtier. Daimyo. Imperial.   5
14D:1RaW 9     Dragon Dynasty        
14D:1RaW 10     Lion Dynasty        
14D:1RaW 11     Phoenix Dynasty        
14D:1RaW 12     Scorpion Dynasty        
14D:1RaW 13     Unicorn Dynasty        
14D:1RaW 14 A Season of War   Neutral Dynasty Event   Rally 1
14D:1RaW 15     Crab Conflict        
14D:1RaW 16     Crane Conflict        
14D:1RaW 17 Educated Heimin   Dragon Conflict Attachment Follower.   0
14D:1RaW 18     Lion Conflict        
14D:1RaW 19     Phoenix Conflict        
14D:1RaW 20     Scorpion Conflict        
14D:1RaW 21 Paralysing Delicacy   Scorpion Conflict Event Poison.   0
14D:1RaW 22     Unicorn Conflict        
14D:1RaW 23     Unicorn Conflict        
14D:1RaW 24     Neutral Conflict        
14D:2SS 25 Seven Stings Keep Y Scorpion Stronghold   Castle.   +7
14D:2SS 26 Shinsei's Last Hope Y Crab Province EarthWater Village. Eminent.  
14D:2SS 27     Lion Province        
14D:2SS 28     Phoenix Province        
14D:2SS 29     Unicorn Province        
14D:2SS 30     Neutral Province        
14D:2SS 31     Crab Dynasty        
14D:2SS 32     Crane Dynasty        
14D:2SS 33     Crane Dynasty        
14D:2SS 34 Traveling Philosopher   Dragon Dynasty Character Monk.   3
14D:2SS 35     Lion Dynasty        
14D:2SS 36 Inspired Visionary   Phoenix Dynasty Character Shugenja. Air.   1
14D:2SS 37     Phoenix Dynasty        
14D:2SS 38 Dispatch to Nowhere   Scorpion Dynasty Event     1
14D:2SS 39 Twilight Rider   Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi. Cavalry. Scout. Rally. 3
14D:2SS 40     Neutral Dynasty        
14D:2SS 41 Disciple of Shinsei   Neutral Dynasty Character Monk. Brotherhood.   2
14D:2SS 42     Crab Conflict        
14D:2SS 43 Highlight the Flaws   Crane Conflict Event     1
14D:2SS 44     Dragon Conflict        
14D:2SS 45     Lion Conflict        
14D:2SS 46     Phoenix Conflict        
14D:2SS 47     Scorpion Conflict        
14D:2SS 48     Unicorn Conflict        
14D:3IPoT 49 Tsuma Y Crane Province AirFire City. Eminent.  
14D:3IPoT 50 Silent Ones Monastery Y Scorpion Province   Temple. Eminent.  
14D:3IPoT 51     Neutral Province        
14D:3IPoT 52     Crab Dynasty        
14D:3IPoT 53     Crab Dynasty        
14D:3IPoT 54 Asahina Augur   Crane Dynasty Character Shugenja. Air.   2
14D:3IPoT 55     Dragon Dynasty        
14D:3IPoT 56       Dynasty        
14D:3IPoT 57       Dynasty        
14D:3IPoT 58     Phoenix Dynasty        
14D:3IPoT 59     Scorpion Dynasty        
14D:3IPoT 60 Scholar of Old Renpet   Unicorn Dynasty Character Shugenja. Rally. 1
14D:3IPoT 61     Unicorn Dynasty        
14D:3IPoT 62     Crab Conflict        
14D:3IPoT 63 The Wealth of the Crane   Crane Conflict Event     5
14D:3IPoT 64     Dragon Conflict        
14D:3IPoT 65       Conflict        
14D:3IPoT 66 Shori Y Lion Conflict Attachment Weapon. Ancestral. Restricted. 2
14D:3IPoT 67       Conflict        
14D:3IPoT 68 Study of the Natural World   Phoenix Conflict Event     2
14D:3IPoT 69     Scorpion Conflict        
14D:3IPoT 70     Unicorn Conflict        
14D:4CoC 71 Hayaken no Shiro Y Lion Stronghold   Castle.   +7
14D:4CoC 72     Dragon Province        
14D:4CoC 73 The Pursuit of Justice   Neutral Province Water      
14D:4CoC 74     Crab Dynasty        
14D:4CoC 75     Crab Dynasty        
14D:4CoC 76 Local Daimyo's Retainer   Crane Dynasty Character Bushi. Ronin.   1
14D:4CoC 77     Crane Dynasty        
14D:4CoC 78     Dragon Dynasty        
14D:4CoC 79 Ikoma Tsanuri Y Lion Dynasty Character Bushi. Commander. Rally. 2
14D:4CoC 80     Phoenix Dynasty        
14D:4CoC 81     Phoenix Dynasty        
14D:4CoC 82 Shadow Stalker   Scorpion Dynasty Character Bushi. Shadow. Shinobi. Rally. 2
14D:4CoC 83     Scorpion Dynasty        
14D:4CoC 84     Unicorn Dynasty        
14D:4CoC 85     Unicorn Dynasty        
14D:4CoC 86     Crab Conflict        
14D:4CoC 87     Crane Conflict     Keeper Only.  
14D:4CoC 88     Dragon Conflict        
14D:4CoC 89 Under Siege   Lion Conflict Event   Fire Only. 1
14D:4CoC 90     Phoenix Conflict        
14D:4CoC 91 Forgery   Scorpion Conflict Event     1
14D:4CoC 92     Unicorn Conflict        

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17 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:
Pack Card Name Faction Deck Type Traits Rules Cost
                   
14D:2SS 43 Highlight the Flaws   Crane Conflict Event     1
                   

 

First off, nice list, as always, but you forgot that Highlight the Flaws is a Fire role locked card. ^^

Which also had me wondering, if crane gets a fire locked card, of which the already have one, and lion gets a fire locked card, which would be the last element they are missing, are we going to get two elemental locked cards per clan this cycle?

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On 2/28/2020 at 4:05 PM, Amathul said:

 

First off, nice list, as always, but you forgot that Highlight the Flaws is a Fire role locked card. ^^

Which also had me wondering, if crane gets a fire locked card, of which the already have one, and lion gets a fire locked card, which would be the last element they are missing, are we going to get two elemental locked cards per clan this cycle?

Having now seen the full contents of Rokugan at War, I consider it highly likely.  Not to mention some Keeper and Seeker-locked cards.

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So is this the last cycle before FFG decides to discontinue the game? I played this game a lot in the first two cycles and want to get back into the game only if FFG is going to continue to support the game here on out. There is only 4 packs in this cycle so i was just curious if they were releasing more or if this it.

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20 minutes ago, bearyweary said:

So is this the last cycle before FFG decides to discontinue the game? I played this game a lot in the first two cycles and want to get back into the game only if FFG is going to continue to support the game here on out. There is only 4 packs in this cycle so i was just curious if they were releasing more or if this it.

We don’t work for FFG so i have to say....how the furk!ng h3lL would you expect us to honestly know the answer?!?

Edited by Hyperjayman

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13 minutes ago, Hyperjayman said:

We don’t work for FFG so i have to say....how the furk!ng h3lL would you expect us to honestly know the answer?!?

uh by giving me an update on the game state instead of being a **** head.

 

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5 minutes ago, bearyweary said:

uh by giving me an update on the game state instead of being a **** head.

 

I’m being like this because your being extremely lazy. You have the internet at your finger tips.

Is the game being canceled? Well you could have used a search engine to find that out. 
Is this the last pack in the cycle? There is literally a product page for the game that should give you an idea of what the answer is.

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6 minutes ago, Hyperjayman said:

I’m being like this because your being extremely lazy. You have the internet at your finger tips.

Is the game being canceled? Well you could have used a search engine to find that out. 
Is this the last pack in the cycle? There is literally a product page for the game that should give you an idea of what the answer is.

lol Lazy? Use your head. What better way to understand the state of the game and its possible longevity from the community dumb ***. You think I didnt reach out to FFG already? God youre dumb. That's the first thing I did. And wow the product page tells a lot hmmm. Looks very similar to Android, Warhammer Conquest, Warhammer Invasion, 3 other LCGs they discontinued. Looking for the opinion of the people who play game and their opinion if the game will falter or not. Of course FFG gave me no clear info hence why I reached out here *******. 

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17 hours ago, bearyweary said:

So is this the last cycle before FFG decides to discontinue the game? I played this game a lot in the first two cycles and want to get back into the game only if FFG is going to continue to support the game here on out. There is only 4 packs in this cycle so i was just curious if they were releasing more or if this it.

We don't know if this is the last cycle, but there are signs that it is not. Agot and SW lcg had rumors beforehand that playtesting didn't receive new cards and Netrunner and Warhammer were canceled die to licensing issues. A cycle contains of 6 dynasty packs and I haven't seen any contrary informations.

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Everything I've heard suggests that there is more to come - like the Ancestral Armour of the Crab, which is in no set so far, but will be a promo card with the Crab novella.

Anyway, cards for the second pack:

Pack Card Name Faction Deck Type Traits Rules Cost
14D:2SS 25 Seven Stings Keep Y Scorpion Stronghold   Castle.   +7
14D:2SS 26 Shinsei's Last Hope Y Crab Province Earth Water Village. Eminent.  
14D:2SS 27 Spectral Visitation   Lion Province Earth Spirit.    
14D:2SS 28 Retire to the Brotherhood   Phoenix Province Water      
14D:2SS 29 Wind's Path   Unicorn Province Fire Water Road. Eminent  
14D:2SS 30 Driven by Courage   Neutral Province Air      
14D:2SS 31 Butcher of the Fallen   Crab Dynasty Character Bushi. Berserker. Rally. 4
14D:2SS 32 Cunning Negotiator   Crane Dynasty Character Courtier. Duellist. Rally. 4
14D:2SS 33 Daidoji Marketplace   Crane Dynasty Holding Marketplace. Rally.  
14D:2SS 34 Traveling Philosopher   Dragon Dynasty Character Monk.   3
14D:2SS 35 Chronicler of Conquests   Lion Dynasty Character Courtier.   1
14D:2SS 36 Inspired Visionary   Phoenix Dynasty Character Shugenja. Air.   1
14D:2SS 37 Thunder Guard Elite   Scorpion Dynasty Character Bushi. Pride. 4
14D:2SS 38 Dispatch to Nowhere   Scorpion Dynasty Event     1
14D:2SS 39 Twilight Rider   Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi. Cavalry. Scout. Rally. 3
14D:2SS 40 Moto Stables   Unicorn Dynasty Holding      
14D:2SS 41 Disciple of Shinsei   Neutral Dynasty Character Monk. Brotherhood.   2
14D:2SS 42 Obsidian Talisman   Crab Conflict Attachment Item. Shadowlands. Void only. 0
14D:2SS 43 Highlight the Flaws   Crane Conflict Event   Fire only 1
14D:2SS 44 Mountaintop Vigil   Dragon Conflict Event   Void only. 1
14D:2SS 45 Logistics   Lion Conflict Event Tactic.   0
14D:2SS 46 Ethereal Alignment   Phoenix Conflict Event Spell. Void.   5
14D:2SS 47 Suffer the Consequences   Scorpion Conflict Event   Earth only. 2
14D:2SS 48 Never Yield   Unicorn Conflict Event Philosophy.   0

 

The Thunder Guard are the garrison of Ryoko Owari, and the Governor of that city, Shosuro Hyobu, shows up on the art for Suffer the Consequences.  Are we gong to return there at some point?

Edited by Tonbo Karasu

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5 hours ago, Ignithas said:

We don't know if this is the last cycle, but there are signs that it is not. Agot and SW lcg had rumors beforehand that playtesting didn't receive new cards and Netrunner and Warhammer were canceled die to licensing issues. A cycle contains of 6 dynasty packs and I haven't seen any contrary informations.

Also why would it be discontinued? FFG owns L5R and they are already discontinuing the rpg. They wont want to cut off all income from that line

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41 minutes ago, RafaelNN said:

Also why would it be discontinued? FFG owns L5R and they are already discontinuing the rpg. They wont want to cut off all income from that line

No they're not.  The RPG is being moved to a new home, in EDGE entertainment, a different branch of Asmodée.

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16 hours ago, RafaelNN said:

Also why would it be discontinued? FFG owns L5R and they are already discontinuing the rpg. They wont want to cut off all income from that line

AS mentioned L5R RPG (along with all the other FFG produced ones and the CMON Zombicide game) are being moved to another studio in the Asmodee group.  We've also had the announcement of a 3rd Novel in the new line from the book imprint they set up as well so I think that their is some pretty strong evidence that they aren't abandoning the IP at the moment.

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