Dominion cycle

[Brekekekiwi 71]

Oh I misunderstood the Rally keyword

 

[Monty Pillepalle 22]

We can also assume that there will be other rally cards. Assuming 1 per Clan, that ist a 34 cards dynasty Deck. With the mulligan and City of the rich frog Decks one can almost Garantie a T1 uji or any Others Charakter start.

[Strange1 31]

So yeah, here we go back to 30/30 or spirits style for all of you who remember it. Not that I am complaining... just stating.

[Tonbo Karasu 2,621]

So here are some predictions for Provinces in this Cycle

	Basic	Element	Eminent
Crab	Shrug off Despair	Void	Maemikake
Crane		Earth	Shizuka Toshi
Dragon		Water	Kyuden Tonbo
Lion		Earth	Ninkatoshi
Phoenix		Water	Kakudaira
Scorpion		Fire	Ryoko Owari
Unicorn		Void	Khanbulak
Air	Keeper only		City of the Rich Frog
Earth	Seeker only
Fire
Void	Seeker only
Water	Keeper only

[Asako Michi 1,746]

Why would Crane's core box stronghold be reprinted as an eminent province? You actually couldn't even use them together in that case, since they would presumably both be unique. 

Edited January 31, 2020 by Kaito Kikaze

[Tonbo Karasu 2,621]

1 hour ago, Kaito Kikaze said:

Why would Crane's core box stronghold be reprinted as an eminent province? You actually couldn't even use them together in that case, since they would presumably both be unique. 

That's a remarkably good question.  I have no idea why I type Shizuka Toshi in there.

Possibly I meant Samui Kaze Toshi.

[Schmoozies 1,378]

Or they use Shiro Kandai or Seven Folds Palace

[Tonbo Karasu 2,621]

19 minutes ago, Schmoozies said:

Or they use Shiro Kandai or Seven Folds Palace

That seems unlikely, given that the other eminent cards we know are population centres rather than castles or palaces.

[Schmoozies 1,378]

16 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

That seems unlikely, given that the other eminent cards we know are population centres rather than castles or palaces.

Castles by their nature tend to be population centers, Kandai is a major trade hub, and Seven Folds is a major artisan academy

[Tonbo Karasu 2,621]

Okay, I was wrong twice, so I'm gong to stop with the guessing of Province names.  However, the article gave us some new information.

Set 3 of the Cycle appears to only have 3 1-ofs in it.  I suspect that this means the other 3 are 3 1-ofs as well.  This means that we'll have a total of 24 single cards in the whole Cycle, which is about the right number.  The breakdown of these would be:

• 7 Clan Provinces (completing the set of elements for each clan)
• 7 Clan Eminent Provinces
• 5 Neutral Provinces (completing the set of elements for the Keeper and Seeker provinces)
• 1+ Neutral Eminent Provinces
• 1-3 Strongholds (Scorpion, possibly adding Crab, Crane and or Phoenix)
• 0-3 other things (Holdings or Philosophy events maybe)

That's a total of 136 different cards, and I think it comes out as 18 per Clan + 10 Neutral.  My google sheets go into more detail.  Each additional pack with 6 1-ofs in the last 3 would increase the neutral count by 2, I reckon.

[Tonbo Karasu 2,621]

With the announcement of pack 4 yesterday, I can do just a bit more logic puzzle on the various cards.  Here is where I think we are at the moment:

Pack	Card	Name	❀	Faction	Deck	Type	Traits	Rules	Cost
14D:1RaW	1	Shrug off Despair		Crab	Province	Void
14D:1RaW	2			Crane	Province	Earth
14D:1RaW	3			Dragon	Province
14D:1RaW	4	Ninkatoshi	Y	Lion	Province	Earth Water	City	Eminent
14D:1RaW	5	Kakudaira	Y	Phoenix	Province		City	Eminent
14D:1RaW	6	City of the Rich Frog	Y	Neutral	Province	Earth Void	City	Eminent
14D:1RaW	7			Crab	Dynasty
14D:1RaW	8	Kakita Yoshi	Y	Crane	Dynasty	Character	Courtier. Daimyo. Imperial.		5
14D:1RaW	9			Dragon	Dynasty
14D:1RaW	10			Lion	Dynasty
14D:1RaW	11			Phoenix	Dynasty
14D:1RaW	12			Scorpion	Dynasty
14D:1RaW	13			Unicorn	Dynasty
14D:1RaW	14	A Season of War		Neutral	Dynasty	Event		Rally	1
14D:1RaW	15			Crab	Conflict
14D:1RaW	16			Crane	Conflict
14D:1RaW	17	Educated Heimin		Dragon	Conflict	Attachment	Follower.		0
14D:1RaW	18			Lion	Conflict
14D:1RaW	19			Phoenix	Conflict
14D:1RaW	20			Scorpion	Conflict
14D:1RaW	21	Paralysing Delicacy		Scorpion	Conflict	Event	Poison.		0
14D:1RaW	22			Unicorn	Conflict
14D:1RaW	23			Unicorn	Conflict
14D:1RaW	24			Neutral	Conflict
14D:2SS	25	Seven Stings Keep	Y	Scorpion	Stronghold		Castle.		+7
14D:2SS	26	Shinsei's Last Hope	Y	Crab	Province	EarthWater	Village.	Eminent.
14D:2SS	27			Lion	Province
14D:2SS	28			Phoenix	Province
14D:2SS	29			Unicorn	Province
14D:2SS	30			Neutral	Province
14D:2SS	31			Crab	Dynasty
14D:2SS	32			Crane	Dynasty
14D:2SS	33			Crane	Dynasty
14D:2SS	34	Traveling Philosopher		Dragon	Dynasty	Character	Monk.		3
14D:2SS	35			Lion	Dynasty
14D:2SS	36	Inspired Visionary		Phoenix	Dynasty	Character	Shugenja. Air.		1
14D:2SS	37			Phoenix	Dynasty
14D:2SS	38	Dispatch to Nowhere		Scorpion	Dynasty	Event			1
14D:2SS	39	Twilight Rider		Unicorn	Dynasty	Character	Bushi. Cavalry. Scout.	Rally.	3
14D:2SS	40			Neutral	Dynasty
14D:2SS	41	Disciple of Shinsei		Neutral	Dynasty	Character	Monk. Brotherhood.		2
14D:2SS	42			Crab	Conflict
14D:2SS	43	Highlight the Flaws		Crane	Conflict	Event			1
14D:2SS	44			Dragon	Conflict
14D:2SS	45			Lion	Conflict
14D:2SS	46			Phoenix	Conflict
14D:2SS	47			Scorpion	Conflict
14D:2SS	48			Unicorn	Conflict
14D:3IPoT	49	Tsuma	Y	Crane	Province	AirFire	City.	Eminent.
14D:3IPoT	50	Silent Ones Monastery	Y	Scorpion	Province		Temple.	Eminent.
14D:3IPoT	51			Neutral	Province
14D:3IPoT	52			Crab	Dynasty
14D:3IPoT	53			Crab	Dynasty
14D:3IPoT	54	Asahina Augur		Crane	Dynasty	Character	Shugenja. Air.		2
14D:3IPoT	55			Dragon	Dynasty
14D:3IPoT	56				Dynasty
14D:3IPoT	57				Dynasty
14D:3IPoT	58			Phoenix	Dynasty
14D:3IPoT	59			Scorpion	Dynasty
14D:3IPoT	60	Scholar of Old Renpet		Unicorn	Dynasty	Character	Shugenja.	Rally.	1
14D:3IPoT	61			Unicorn	Dynasty
14D:3IPoT	62			Crab	Conflict
14D:3IPoT	63	The Wealth of the Crane		Crane	Conflict	Event			5
14D:3IPoT	64			Dragon	Conflict
14D:3IPoT	65				Conflict
14D:3IPoT	66	Shori	Y	Lion	Conflict	Attachment	Weapon.	Ancestral. Restricted.	2
14D:3IPoT	67				Conflict
14D:3IPoT	68	Study of the Natural World		Phoenix	Conflict	Event			2
14D:3IPoT	69			Scorpion	Conflict
14D:3IPoT	70			Unicorn	Conflict
14D:4CoC	71	Hayaken no Shiro	Y	Lion	Stronghold		Castle.		+7
14D:4CoC	72			Dragon	Province
14D:4CoC	73	The Pursuit of Justice		Neutral	Province	Water
14D:4CoC	74			Crab	Dynasty
14D:4CoC	75			Crab	Dynasty
14D:4CoC	76	Local Daimyo's Retainer		Crane	Dynasty	Character	Bushi. Ronin.		1
14D:4CoC	77			Crane	Dynasty
14D:4CoC	78			Dragon	Dynasty
14D:4CoC	79	Ikoma Tsanuri	Y	Lion	Dynasty	Character	Bushi. Commander.	Rally.	2
14D:4CoC	80			Phoenix	Dynasty
14D:4CoC	81			Phoenix	Dynasty
14D:4CoC	82	Shadow Stalker		Scorpion	Dynasty	Character	Bushi. Shadow. Shinobi.	Rally.	2
14D:4CoC	83			Scorpion	Dynasty
14D:4CoC	84			Unicorn	Dynasty
14D:4CoC	85			Unicorn	Dynasty
14D:4CoC	86			Crab	Conflict
14D:4CoC	87			Crane	Conflict			Keeper Only.
14D:4CoC	88			Dragon	Conflict
14D:4CoC	89	Under Siege		Lion	Conflict	Event		Fire Only.	1
14D:4CoC	90			Phoenix	Conflict
14D:4CoC	91	Forgery		Scorpion	Conflict	Event			1
14D:4CoC	92			Unicorn	Conflict

[Amathul 10]

17 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

Pack	Card	Name	❀	Faction	Deck	Type	Traits	Rules	Cost
14D:2SS	43	Highlight the Flaws		Crane	Conflict	Event			1

 

First off, nice list, as always, but you forgot that Highlight the Flaws is a Fire role locked card. ^^

Which also had me wondering, if crane gets a fire locked card, of which the already have one, and lion gets a fire locked card, which would be the last element they are missing, are we going to get two elemental locked cards per clan this cycle?

[Tonbo Karasu 2,621]

On 2/28/2020 at 4:05 PM, Amathul said:

 

First off, nice list, as always, but you forgot that Highlight the Flaws is a Fire role locked card. ^^

Which also had me wondering, if crane gets a fire locked card, of which the already have one, and lion gets a fire locked card, which would be the last element they are missing, are we going to get two elemental locked cards per clan this cycle?

Having now seen the full contents of Rokugan at War, I consider it highly likely.  Not to mention some Keeper and Seeker-locked cards.

[bearyweary 2]

So is this the last cycle before FFG decides to discontinue the game? I played this game a lot in the first two cycles and want to get back into the game only if FFG is going to continue to support the game here on out. There is only 4 packs in this cycle so i was just curious if they were releasing more or if this it.

[Hyperjayman 139]

20 minutes ago, bearyweary said:

So is this the last cycle before FFG decides to discontinue the game? I played this game a lot in the first two cycles and want to get back into the game only if FFG is going to continue to support the game here on out. There is only 4 packs in this cycle so i was just curious if they were releasing more or if this it.

We don’t work for FFG so i have to say....how the furk!ng h3lL would you expect us to honestly know the answer?!?

Edited March 18, 2020 by Hyperjayman

[bearyweary 2]

13 minutes ago, Hyperjayman said:

We don’t work for FFG so i have to say....how the furk!ng h3lL would you expect us to honestly know the answer?!?

uh by giving me an update on the game state instead of being a **** head.

 

[Hyperjayman 139]

5 minutes ago, bearyweary said:

uh by giving me an update on the game state instead of being a **** head.

 

I’m being like this because your being extremely lazy. You have the internet at your finger tips.

Is the game being canceled? Well you could have used a search engine to find that out. 
Is this the last pack in the cycle? There is literally a product page for the game that should give you an idea of what the answer is.

[bearyweary 2]

6 minutes ago, Hyperjayman said:

I’m being like this because your being extremely lazy. You have the internet at your finger tips.

Is the game being canceled? Well you could have used a search engine to find that out. 
Is this the last pack in the cycle? There is literally a product page for the game that should give you an idea of what the answer is.

lol Lazy? Use your head. What better way to understand the state of the game and its possible longevity from the community dumb ***. You think I didnt reach out to FFG already? God youre dumb. That's the first thing I did. And wow the product page tells a lot hmmm. Looks very similar to Android, Warhammer Conquest, Warhammer Invasion, 3 other LCGs they discontinued. Looking for the opinion of the people who play game and their opinion if the game will falter or not. Of course FFG gave me no clear info hence why I reached out here *******. 

[Ignithas 275]

17 hours ago, bearyweary said:

So is this the last cycle before FFG decides to discontinue the game? I played this game a lot in the first two cycles and want to get back into the game only if FFG is going to continue to support the game here on out. There is only 4 packs in this cycle so i was just curious if they were releasing more or if this it.

We don't know if this is the last cycle, but there are signs that it is not. Agot and SW lcg had rumors beforehand that playtesting didn't receive new cards and Netrunner and Warhammer were canceled die to licensing issues. A cycle contains of 6 dynasty packs and I haven't seen any contrary informations.

[Tonbo Karasu 2,621]

Everything I've heard suggests that there is more to come - like the Ancestral Armour of the Crab, which is in no set so far, but will be a promo card with the Crab novella.

Anyway, cards for the second pack:

Pack	Card	Name	❀	Faction	Deck	Type	Traits	Rules	Cost
14D:2SS	25	Seven Stings Keep	Y	Scorpion	Stronghold		Castle.		+7
14D:2SS	26	Shinsei's Last Hope	Y	Crab	Province	Earth Water	Village.	Eminent.
14D:2SS	27	Spectral Visitation		Lion	Province	Earth	Spirit.
14D:2SS	28	Retire to the Brotherhood		Phoenix	Province	Water
14D:2SS	29	Wind's Path		Unicorn	Province	Fire Water	Road.	Eminent
14D:2SS	30	Driven by Courage		Neutral	Province	Air
14D:2SS	31	Butcher of the Fallen		Crab	Dynasty	Character	Bushi. Berserker.	Rally.	4
14D:2SS	32	Cunning Negotiator		Crane	Dynasty	Character	Courtier. Duellist.	Rally.	4
14D:2SS	33	Daidoji Marketplace		Crane	Dynasty	Holding	Marketplace.	Rally.
14D:2SS	34	Traveling Philosopher		Dragon	Dynasty	Character	Monk.		3
14D:2SS	35	Chronicler of Conquests		Lion	Dynasty	Character	Courtier.		1
14D:2SS	36	Inspired Visionary		Phoenix	Dynasty	Character	Shugenja. Air.		1
14D:2SS	37	Thunder Guard Elite		Scorpion	Dynasty	Character	Bushi.	Pride.	4
14D:2SS	38	Dispatch to Nowhere		Scorpion	Dynasty	Event			1
14D:2SS	39	Twilight Rider		Unicorn	Dynasty	Character	Bushi. Cavalry. Scout.	Rally.	3
14D:2SS	40	Moto Stables		Unicorn	Dynasty	Holding
14D:2SS	41	Disciple of Shinsei		Neutral	Dynasty	Character	Monk. Brotherhood.		2
14D:2SS	42	Obsidian Talisman		Crab	Conflict	Attachment	Item. Shadowlands.	Void only.	0
14D:2SS	43	Highlight the Flaws		Crane	Conflict	Event		Fire only	1
14D:2SS	44	Mountaintop Vigil		Dragon	Conflict	Event		Void only.	1
14D:2SS	45	Logistics		Lion	Conflict	Event	Tactic.		0
14D:2SS	46	Ethereal Alignment		Phoenix	Conflict	Event	Spell. Void.		5
14D:2SS	47	Suffer the Consequences		Scorpion	Conflict	Event		Earth only.	2
14D:2SS	48	Never Yield		Unicorn	Conflict	Event	Philosophy.		0

 

The Thunder Guard are the garrison of Ryoko Owari, and the Governor of that city, Shosuro Hyobu, shows up on the art for Suffer the Consequences.  Are we gong to return there at some point?

Edited March 19, 2020 by Tonbo Karasu

[RafaelNN 180]

5 hours ago, Ignithas said:

We don't know if this is the last cycle, but there are signs that it is not. Agot and SW lcg had rumors beforehand that playtesting didn't receive new cards and Netrunner and Warhammer were canceled die to licensing issues. A cycle contains of 6 dynasty packs and I haven't seen any contrary informations.

Also why would it be discontinued? FFG owns L5R and they are already discontinuing the rpg. They wont want to cut off all income from that line

[Tonbo Karasu 2,621]

41 minutes ago, RafaelNN said:

Also why would it be discontinued? FFG owns L5R and they are already discontinuing the rpg. They wont want to cut off all income from that line

No they're not.  The RPG is being moved to a new home, in EDGE entertainment, a different branch of Asmodée.

[Daigotsu Arashi 62]

15 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

No they're not.  The RPG is being moved to a new home, in EDGE entertainment, a different branch of Asmodée.

from guatemala to guatepeor

[Schmoozies 1,378]

16 hours ago, RafaelNN said:

Also why would it be discontinued? FFG owns L5R and they are already discontinuing the rpg. They wont want to cut off all income from that line

AS mentioned L5R RPG (along with all the other FFG produced ones and the CMON Zombicide game) are being moved to another studio in the Asmodee group.  We've also had the announcement of a 3rd Novel in the new line from the book imprint they set up as well so I think that their is some pretty strong evidence that they aren't abandoning the IP at the moment.

[RafaelNN 180]

I stand corrected