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OH! It was so good. I know I say that a lot, but wow. Just amazing.

Disappointed that Cara Dune didn't hold an LRB the entire time, but hey, maybe that means we'll see her again?

Baby Yoda is entirely adorable, and remains so. I'm glad we've learned more about the Mandalorians (I'm intentionally avoiding my pun. On a side note, however, Mandalorian Supercom-mandos! :D) and I've become much more sentimental since I started playing this game, so I felt this episode in whatever counts as a sentient aircraft's heart. I felt so sorry for the Mandalorian and Baby Yoda. The inability to settle down is quite sad.

One interesting question this episode raises about Mandalorian helmet-wearing rules is that we now know that they can take the helmets off privately, but does that include when with a spouse? I guess it depends somewhat on how Mandalorian culture considers marriage.

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Oh, something I forgot. The Mandalorian trying to buy information was absolutely hi-larious. She had no idea what was going on.

I was kinda disappointed that we never learned how Omera learned to shoot. (My first thought was "I wonder if that's why her husband is dead?" And then I realized I should probably rephrase: "What is her past that would have resulted in her learning to shoot, and would said past be the cause of her husband's death? Were she and her husband rebels?"

I loved that it was a Relby V10. Also, to a couple people's objection about the plant/payoff coming to fast, his armory was planted early in episode 1, and didn't come into play until episode 4. I was wondering when they'd become relevant.

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On 11/26/2019 at 8:45 PM, Daeglan said:

Nonenof that is cannon. You are grasping at straws for things that we do not see in cur re nt canon.

Excuse me? Beskar

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Beskar,[1] also known as Mandalorian iron,[3] was an alloy used in Mandalorian armor, notable for its high tolerance to extreme forms of damage. The metal was durable enough to withstand a direct blaster shot,[4] and could potentially withstand the slash[5] or glancing blow[6] of a lightsaber, though could be penetrated with a direct stab.[7] A superweapon created by the Mandalorian Sabine Wren and used by the Galactic Empire, called the Arc Pulse Generator, was capable of super-heating the metal to the point that it would burn to a crisp everything it was protecting, as in the case of Mandalorian warriors covered behind their beskar armor. However, Wren was able to destroy her weapon during the Mandalorian civil war.[1]

On 11/26/2019 at 9:30 PM, micheldebruyn said:

Just because a mysterious and legendary metal is colloquially called iron doesn't mean it's actually related to the element we identify scientifically as Fe. 

Except it's not a "colloquial" term. See below. 

On 11/28/2019 at 3:20 PM, OddballE8 said:

Lightsabers aren't made of light... Turbolasers and Laser cannons don't fire laser beams... Just because a word in the name of an item is recognizable to us as something, doesn't mean that the item is made of that or even fires that.

The first time it was named "mandalorian iron" was in a comic from 1997, and I'm pretty sure they weren't interested in its metallurgical properties back then and just said "mandalorian iron" because they didn't have a mandalorian name for it yet.

Mandalorian iron was later named Beskar, and Beskar is an alloy.
And no, Beskar isn't Mandalorian iron refined into something else... the name is interchangeable... 

Execpt, as @Eoen pointed out below, Beskar literally translates to iron in Mando'a. 

23 hours ago, Eoen said:

Beskar literally means Iron in Mand’oa. The English word “steel” means an alloy of iron and carbon, and “steel” has been used in canon.

If your going to reference legends then it’s fair game to rebut with legends content.

“Beskar is a uniquely resistant iron that develops a wide range of properties—and colors—in the hands of skilled metalsmiths. Depending on the alloy, it can take any form from plate, laminate, and wire to foam, mesh, micronized particles, and even a transparent film. Mandalorians jealously guard their beskar-working skills and refuse to sell the formulas for any price; attempts to reproduce finished beskar elsewhere have been disappointing. The ore is found solely on Mandalore, and only Mandalorians know how to work it to maximize its extraordinary properties.“

Precisely. Thank you. 

22 hours ago, penpenpen said:

So, it's not actually iron?

If it was, ordinary iron could be made resistant as well.

 

Who said "ordinary"? The specific properties of Beskar ore  can be the result of several potential factors that make it different than other types of iron, be it because of other trace minerals within in the ore or possibly being a different isotope of iron. We don't know for sure. 

22 hours ago, Eoen said:

No it’s not ordinary iron, I don’t think anyone in this thread is saying that.

Precisely. Thank you. 

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3 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Oh, something I forgot. The Mandalorian trying to buy information was absolutely hi-larious. She had no idea what was going on.

I was kinda disappointed that we never learned how Omera learned to shoot. (My first thought was "I wonder if that's why her husband is dead?" And then I realized I should probably rephrase: "What is her past that would have resulted in her learning to shoot, and would said past be the cause of her husband's death? Were she and her husband rebels?"

I loved that it was a Relby V10. Also, to a couple people's objection about the plant/payoff coming to fast, his armory was planted early in episode 1, and didn't come into play until episode 4. I was wondering when they'd become relevant.

I thought she might have been a mandalorian as well at some point, she seemed pretty understanding of their customs and stuff. Also it would sorta make sense from a story perspective to have her represent the alternative, what he could have if he allowed himself to settle down and take the chance to be happy.

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22 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

Excuse me? Beskar

 

Iron

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Iron was a substance that comprised certain starship fuels during the Galactic Civil War as well as was used to create beskar, a material from which traditional Mandalorian armor was created. Iron was present on Jakku in the Graveyard of Ships as a hazard to scavengers on the planet's surface. It possessed a gold color in the sand, identifying it.[1] Iron could also be used to construct fences.[3]

 

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3 minutes ago, Darth Revenant said:

I thought she might have been a mandalorian as well at some point, she seemed pretty understanding of their customs and stuff. Also it would sorta make sense from a story perspective to have her represent the alternative, what he could have if he allowed himself to settle down and take the chance to be happy.

I'd considered that, but I think she probably would have said something. Not necessarily coming right out and saying it, but something. Especially if they intended her to be shown as an alternative. I think they probably intended her as an alternative, but not a "I left the Mandalorians, you can too" sort of alternative. Just a look at life on the outside, and an invitation to join it.

Could be she knew Mandalorians. Here's an idea that just crossed my mind. Perhaps she married a Mandalorian, but he was killed and she gave up on the Mandalorian ways. "The way of life that killed her husband" or something to that effect. Doubt it though.

But I would really like to know more about her. Decent chance she'll reappear at some point, and I hope she does.

 

On another note, the actor is doing a phenomenal job as the Mandalorian. In spite of wearing a helmet (or possibly because of), he's done a great job of making the character relatable. You can really tell when he feels out of place and uncomfortable. I'm not sure if this is just related to the audio from his helmet, or if this is intentional vocal modulation, but when he feels less confident (like when he was talking to Omera) you could sort of hear his voice crack a little, or he'd sound more hesitant. At any rate, it's great and quite enjoyable.

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41 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

Excuse me? Beskar

Except it's not a "colloquial" term. See below. 

Execpt, as @Eoen pointed out below, Beskar literally translates to iron in Mando'a. 

Precisely. Thank you. 

Who said "ordinary"? The specific properties of Beskar ore  can be the result of several potential factors that make it different than other types of iron, be it because of other trace minerals within in the ore or possibly being a different isotope of iron. We don't know for sure. 

Precisely. Thank you. 

Just because they saynit translates to iron does not mean it is iron. It clearly is not based on iron and the properties do not match.

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Just now, Daeglan said:

Just because they saynit translates to iron does not mean it is iron. It clearly is not based on iron and the properties do not match.

Yes, it is based upon Iron. Hence the designation Mandalorian Iron and the word translating to Iron.  At the very least it’s an ore with trace minerals or an isotope. Isotopes typically have different properties to the base form of an element. Also trace elements in an ore can also grant different properties to the refined metals made from them as well. As such, either source  could result in the unique properties that Beskar has over normal Iron. 

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