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On 11/25/2019 at 4:49 PM, Eoen said:

I agree I just rewatched the scene about the ingot payment it is unclear wether Herzog is talking about the metal ingots or using it as a metaphorical barb to needle the Mandalorian about his inquiry.

I assume it’s called iron or steel because it has the properties of iron or steel but better.

It could also be a isotope of iron unique to Mandalore and Concordia. 

This^. 

On 11/25/2019 at 6:19 PM, Daeglan said:

Why do you use iron as your basis? Maybe it is more like titanium?

 

On 11/25/2019 at 6:21 PM, Eoen said:

Because it’s called iron.

Exactly. Beskar ore is Mandalorian IRON. As such, it is at the very least Iron ore  with various specific trace elements, if not a particular isotope of Iron unique to the planet Mandalore and Concordia.  It is then refined through various techniques into pure Mandalorian Iron as well as further refined into various Beskar Steel alloys through the addition of carbon.

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20 hours ago, Eoen said:

@Daeglan Someone who is used to wearing armor can do cartwheels in 14th century steel plate armor or vault on to the back of a horse. It typically weighs around 60 lbs, you could even swim in it if your a strong swimmer. I saw nothing in the show in the fifteen minutes he had with the Beskar armor that he didn’t already demonstrate with his old mostly durasteel suit (where he climbs up the side of the crawler).

His armour isn’t full either if was steel it likely be under 35 lbs, and Sabine’s armour has less plate material it probably would weigh under 25 lbs if it was modern steel.

Wearing 60 pounds of armor is VERY different than picking up a 60 pounds barbell.

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43 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

This^. 

 

Exactly. Beskar ore is Mandalorian IRON. As such, it is at the very least Iron ore  with various specific trace elements, if not a particular isotope of Iron unique to the planet Mandalore and Concordia.  It is then refined through various techniques into pure Mandalorian Iron as well as further refined into various Beskar Steel alloys through the addition of carbon.

Nonenof that is cannon. You are grasping at straws for things that we do not see in cur re nt canon.

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38 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Wearing 60 pounds of armor is VERY different than picking up a 60 pounds barbell.

Are we still doing this?

Yeah armour is distributed weight, especially plate which is designed to support itself, and take weight off the shoulders.

There are dozens if not hundreds of videos on YouTube about about plate armour.

Your aware no doubt that knights at and utter **** load of calories aren’t you? They also trained from about the age of seven onward to handle the weight.

 

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21 minutes ago, Eoen said:

Are we still doing this?

Yeah armour is distributed weight, especially plate which is designed to support itself, and take weight off the shoulders.

There are dozens if not hundreds of videos on YouTube about about plate armour.

Sure. I have also worn it. Butnit is not relevant to how the armorer handles ingots. Which are handled as if they are light

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3 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Sure. I have also worn it. Butnit is not relevant to how the armorer handles ingots. Which are handled as if they are light

Using two hands to hold up a stack is not an indication of light. I known a few waitresses who could carry 50 lbs of beer and glass on a tray at shoulder height like it’s nothing.

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1 hour ago, Tramp Graphics said:

This^. 

 

Exactly. Beskar ore is Mandalorian IRON. As such, it is at the very least Iron ore  with various specific trace elements, if not a particular isotope of Iron unique to the planet Mandalore and Concordia.  It is then refined through various techniques into pure Mandalorian Iron as well as further refined into various Beskar Steel alloys through the addition of carbon.

Just because a mysterious and legendary metal is colloquially called iron doesn't mean it's actually related to the element we identify scientifically as Fe. 

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2 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

Just because a mysterious and legendary metal is colloquially called iron doesn't mean it's actually related to the element we identify scientifically as Fe. 

I agree it also doesn’t mean it isn’t.

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5 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

I wouldnt assume anything about its weight based on the name. The likely associati ok n the writer was making was about its strength. 

I’m not assuming anything I’ve always claimed it was a guesstimate. Until the story group says otherwise it’s all opinions. The only reason I ever brought up the weight was to speculate on wether the container had repulsor tech builds in.😂

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1 minute ago, Eoen said:

I’m not assuming anything I’ve always claimed it was a guesstimate.

Which is heavier than what we see in the show. :) and you bit about waitresses makes me question your observation skills. I find you can tell something has weight even if the lifter is not struggling. You body shifts its center of gravity etc based on weight.

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5 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Which is heavier than what we see in the show. :) and you bit about waitresses makes me question your observation skills. I find you can tell something has weight even if the lifter is not struggling. You body shifts its center of gravity etc based on weight.

Only if the actors are emphasizing it, it’s tv, Captain Kirk smashed the Gorn with a really big prop rock like it was practically weightless and the prop was.

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1 minute ago, Eoen said:

Only if the actors are emphasizing it, it’s tv, Captain Kirk smashed the Gorn with a really big prop rock like it was practically weightless and the prop was.

They only emphasize it if they are directed to and directors do pay more attention to such things. As do prop makers

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Just now, Eoen said:

Only if the actors are emphasizing it, it’s tv, Captain Kirk smashed the Gorn with a really big prop rock like it was practically weightless and the prop was.

Small distinction there, that was an extremely early episode of a NOT major franchise, and it didn't have nearly as much money poured into it.

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12 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

They only emphasize it if they are directed to and directors do pay more attention to such things. As do prop makers

Yep and Jon Favreau is that scene, but he only picks up one ingot.

The blacksmith on the other hand is holding a stack of 6 ingots.

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20 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Small distinction there, that was an extremely early episode of a NOT major franchise, and it didn't have nearly as much money poured into it.

This is an early episode as well. There are plenty of plot holes in TFA, it had a huge budget, Hollywood screws up all the time. What about the throne room fight in TLJ weapons just disappeared from combatants hands.

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2 minutes ago, Eoen said:

This is an early episode as well. There are plenty of plot holes in TFA, it had a huge budget, Hollywood screws up all the time. What about the throne room fight in TLJ weapons just disappeared from combatants hands.

Yeah, there was no excuse for that. I'm just saying that there is a significant difference in quality between the first Star Trek show and The Mandalorian, so not all comparisons are going to be suitable.

My early episode remark was saying that this was before Star Trek had taken off and was a big thing. It had nothing to do with the show being in its infancy.

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30 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Yeah, there was no excuse for that. I'm just saying that there is a significant difference in quality between the first Star Trek show and The Mandalorian, so not all comparisons are going to be suitable.

My early episode remark was saying that this was before Star Trek had taken off and was a big thing. It had nothing to do with the show being in its infancy.

Yeah I agree this show would be better compared to Star Trek Discovery in terms of budget and polish.

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12 hours ago, penpenpen said:

FaD Core Rules, page 168

Blaster carbines may be fired one-handed with no penalties at short range, just like heavy blaster pistols.

Huh.  I never caught on to that change in the rules.  That certainly makes a difference.  I wish they would put out a comprehensive list of all of the things that have been altered as the line has matured.

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2 hours ago, Ahrimon said:

Huh.  I never caught on to that change in the rules.  That certainly makes a difference.  I wish they would put out a comprehensive list of all of the things that have been altered as the line has matured.

There is the FAQ

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