Casian and k2so/Iden Versio and dio expansions

[ResoluteHusky 62]

12 minutes ago, crx3800 said:

To think, if we don't get a preview article on these two today, we likely won't see one until Tues or Wed of next week!

I hope not, I already can't stop thinking about them. If the article doesn't come out i'll die wait I guess? (I still really want to see that preview article)

[Weikel 68]

18 minutes ago, ResoluteHusky said:

I hope not, I already can't stop thinking about them. If the article doesn't come out i'll die wait I guess? (I still really want to see that preview article)

The "announcing" articles usually come out around the first week of the month, with a couple of exceptions. An article next week makes sense. I think the Luke and Vader operatives were an exception.

[Ralgon 1,005]

13 minutes ago, Weikel said:

The "announcing" articles usually come out around the first week of the month, with a couple of exceptions. An article next week makes sense. I think the Luke and Vader operatives were an exception.

Hold your horses there son, we're still waiting on the escape pod "announcement". I wouldn't hold my breath for these guys just yet.

Edited August 29, 2019 by Ralgon

[RyantheFett 532]

1 hour ago, syrath said:

I've actually enjoyed much of the new material , but agree some has been mediocre. The three Thrawn books were good examples , Dark Disciple was really good IMO the two Leia books. Claudia Grey has been consistent.  The first Battlefront book was okay, but seemed to just end in the middle of nowhere. Tarkin was also good. New Dawn was pretty reasonable. Master and Apprentice was really good. Another really good one was Rogue One Catalyst. I think that there are more better books than bad though I can't say I got into Aftermath.  At lot of the books I mentioned have been well received in review and by readers.

Can't disagree with most of what you said. I think Claudia Grey may have the best books so far in this new canon. I find the Thrawn books are really good, but seem just a bit small stakes for such an important character. I loved how Tarkin took huge chunks out of the EU and made them canon.......... was that the only book that has done that so far?

As for books I flat out did not like I can only think of really two: Last Shot and Phasma. (special MVP for From a Certain Point of View the only book that made me feel like I was on acid)

Besides that the books, comics, and **** even miniature games (go Starhawk!) are fine and often connect well together. The video games......................... not so much.

[Weikel 68]

2 hours ago, Ralgon said:

Hold your horses there son, we're still waiting on the escape pod "announcement". I wouldn't hold my breath for these guys just yet.

True. But I'm picturing two announcement articles: one for these 2 commander expansions and one for the escape pod and droids. Kinda like August having an article for corps upgrades and an article for the bunker. There's just so much coming out!

[crx3800 268]

4 hours ago, crx3800 said:

To think, if we don't get a preview article on these two today, we likely won't see one until Tues or Wed of next week!

Whoops. I spent all day at work thinking it was friday.🙄

[TauntaunScout 4,276]

4 hours ago, crx3800 said:

To think, if we don't get a preview article on these two today, we likely won't see one until Tues or Wed of next week!

Or ever. Cause it might turn out to be a false rumor. 

[crx3800 268]

Very true. I would suspect some indication that it was false (by way of a different preview? maybe) if it weren't true. It seems like good enough info that it's probably true. 

 

[lunitic501 302]

14 hours ago, RyantheFett said:

. I loved how Tarkin took huge chunks out of the EU and made them canon.......... was that the only book that has done that so far?

As for books I flat out did not like I can only think of really two: Last Shot and Phasma.

I believe tarkins included so much EU because it was one of the first books to come out after the Disney deal and was being written even before the Disney deal was finalized (could be wrong about that). Totally agree with u about last shot, was not the greatest book, currently my least favorite book of the new cannon.

[Alpha17 2,853]

22 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

Star Wars has made absolutely no sense for a long time now. They let anyone write anything, as long as the licensing check clears. Meanwhile the best word to describe the films seems to be "impulsive". Things make it onto the silver screen that seem like they're from fast and loose brainstorming sessions and should have been eliminated early in the storyboard process.

It's almost like they know it'll make money no matter what, so they're letting interns write it all while they go golfing.

I tend to disagree.  There have been some absolutely stupid stories, and the non-canon material was never supposed to make sense, but most issues can be explained away in context.  For instance, dropping a moon on Chewie seems absolutely silly, but works great in the story, fits the over-the-top nature of the villains, and is later used to explain things.  

19 hours ago, syrath said:

In the EU Palpatine replaced the rule of two with the rule of one. So it was pretty much just as stupid.

Eh, depends on when you're talking about.  He seemed to abandon the Rule of Two during the Dark Empire era, but I tend to agree with Mara Jade that what ever the Emperor Reborn was, it wasn't really the Emperor.  Something like only part of him made the transition, and that's why he began acting increasingly crazy through those comics.  Before Endor, he certainly seems to have stuck to the Rule of Two.

16 hours ago, syrath said:

I've actually enjoyed much of the new material , but agree some has been mediocre. The three Thrawn books were good examples , Dark Disciple was really good IMO the two Leia books. Claudia Grey has been consistent.  The first Battlefront book was okay, but seemed to just end in the middle of nowhere. Tarkin was also good. New Dawn was pretty reasonable. Master and Apprentice was really good. Another really good one was Rogue One Catalyst. I think that there are more better books than bad though I can't say I got into Aftermath.  At lot of the books I mentioned have been well received in review and by readers.

The first and second Thrawn books were good, the second one was meh.  Would have made for a decent short story or novella, but not something the length it was.  The Battlefront books were OK, as was Tarkin, but that's about as far as I'll go with them.  Lost Stars was surprisingly good, if a little simplistic.  Haven't heard anything good about Dark Disciple before now, and since I wasn't a fan of TCW's take on Vos, I doubt I'll care for it.  I've given up on the ST era, so Bloodlines just holds no interest for me.  I might have to give Master and Apprentice a shot at some point, but it'd have to fight my nostalgic attachment to the Jedi Apprentice Series, and that's just unfair. 

The Aftermath books... jeez, those were terrible.  The first one **** near killed my interest in the Disney timeline even before Ep. VII, and the next two were even worse.  The only salvageable character from the bunch was Sloane, and even then, the last book kinda just treats her like trash.  Don't even get me started in how Wedge was treated in that terrible series.  I really think they should have gone with a better author to handle their first foray into the EU, ideally Zahn, but really anyone else could have done it better.  What we got was just bad, on the level of the crap that made me stop reading new SW books a decade + ago, if not worse. 

[RyantheFett 532]

On 8/30/2019 at 8:02 AM, Alpha17 said:

tend to disagree.  There have been some absolutely stupid stories, and the non-canon material was never supposed to make sense, but most issues can be explained away in context.  For instance, dropping a moon on Chewie seems absolutely silly, but works great in the story, fits the over-the-top nature of the villains, and is later used to explain things.  

With so many years of EU and the sheer amount of stories it was so easy to skip the real crap ones. **** I spent a good 5 years just reading stories on Boba Fett. Some were good, some were bad, and most contradicted each other. The reboot should have been the chance to just steal all the great stories, ideas, and characters into a story that flowed better.

That may be the worse part of the new canon now, the wasted opportunity all over the places. EU had the war pretty much never ending, but canon has it ending in less then a year............ Lol need to find some balance.

Looking at everything that's canon so far I think the best thing may still be the Clone Wars TV series? A series that ran over almost all of the EU (even the other clone wars TV show) and stole many ideas and changed stuff on just spite. (Korriban into Moraband lol)

The mouse may turn out bad for Star Wars, but George Lucas did some crazy things and the new canon/old EU is safe from him.

[TauntaunScout 4,276]

41 minutes ago, RyantheFett said:

 I spent a good 5 years just reading stories on Boba Fett. Some were good, some were bad, and most contradicted each other.

How bout the one where he had amnesia and befriended Han? Only to wind up dead again? So many ❤️'s for that nonsense.

41 minutes ago, RyantheFett said:

 

The reboot should have been the chance to just steal all the great stories, ideas, and characters into a story that flowed better.

Here's the problem. On a scale of 1 to 10, your idea of a 10 is usually someone else's idea of a 1. But we all tend to agree on the 4-6's. While we'll turn off a 1, we'll all pretty much tolerate a 5. This is why mediocre tv and radio is the norm.

[RyantheFett 532]

23 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

How bout the one where he had amnesia and befriended Han? Only to wind up dead again? So many ❤️'s for that nonsense.

Ahhhh I knew these forums were filled with people of culture. My favorite is a story I have no idea is true or not. My friend says he read how Boba Fett somehow got the Death Star plans and he passed it to the Rebles since he owned someone lol. It is the EU so why not!

If cassien and iden are the two new units I hope they tie them into future shows or books. The mouse gave armada the first look of the Starhawk and the design of the laser cannon we see in 9. That's some agressive cross product promotion that they should keep up!

38 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

Here's the problem. On a scale of 1 to 10, your idea of a 10 is usually someone else's idea of a 1. But we all tend to agree on the 4-6's. While we'll turn off a 1, we'll all pretty much tolerate a 5. 

Pretty much describes Star Wars book lol. Some good, some bad, most fine. But I read at work and all my books are free so I figure there are worse ways to waste my time.

[FSD 865]

1 hour ago, TauntaunScout said:

How bout the one where he had amnesia and befriended Han? Only to wind up dead again? So many ❤️'s for that nonsense.

Riding a sandcrawler down the sarlacc’s gullet shouting, “HAAAAAAaaaaaannn!”? Yeah, that’s how I wanna go out! 

[syrath 1,316]

On 8/31/2019 at 8:43 PM, RyantheFett said:

Ahhhh I knew these forums were filled with people of culture. My favorite is a story I have no idea is true or not. My friend says he read how Boba Fett somehow got the Death Star plans and he passed it to the Rebles since he owned someone lol. It is the EU so why not!

If cassien and iden are the two new units I hope they tie them into future shows or books. The mouse gave armada the first look of the Starhawk and the design of the laser cannon we see in 9. That's some agressive cross product promotion that they should keep up!

Pretty much describes Star Wars book lol. Some good, some bad, most fine. But I read at work and all my books are free so I figure there are worse ways to waste my time.

Cassian is tied to a future show. It was the second show announced for star wars on Disney streaming service after the Mandalorian

[Lem213 18]

On 8/27/2019 at 3:04 PM, Asvaldir said:

I'd greatly prefer Hask over Iden/Dio. Only inferno squad commando who actually stays loyal, though since Iden is the "star" of the bfII campaign I doubt they'd make Hask.  

I mean, she only goes traitor AFTER the second Death Star's destruction, and even then it was some time till she jumped sides. Which means that she was a loyalist from presumably the beginning, since they are spec ops who are known by name to the rebels, and they ask Leiah for forgiveness when joining the rebels, implying that they have done some bad stuff to the rebellion.

[RyantheFett 532]

56 minutes ago, Lem213 said:

On 8/27/2019 at 3:04 PM, Asvaldir said:

I'd greatly prefer Hask over Iden/Dio. Only inferno squad commando who actually stays loyal, though since Iden is the "star" of the bfII campaign I doubt they'd make Hask.  

I mean, she only goes traitor AFTER the second Death Star's destruction, and even then it was some time till she jumped sides. Which means that she was a loyalist from presumably the beginning, since they are spec ops who are known by name to the rebels, and they ask Leiah for forgiveness when joining the rebels, implying that they have done some bad stuff to the rebellion.

She is super loyal to the Empire up until they destroy her home planet in Operation Cinder. Funny enough in her book she only takes down a partisan cell and some corrupt Imperials. The game she does kill a lot of Rebels tho. So I can see giving her.

My real question is what will they do with the rest of Infernal Squad? The other three members are all unique and we have not yet seen them commit to limiting people to one unit of special forces.

[Red Castle 3,875]

30 minutes ago, RyantheFett said:

She is super loyal to the Empire up until they destroy her home planet in Operation Cinder. Funny enough in her book she only takes down a partisan cell and some corrupt Imperials. The game she does kill a lot of Rebels tho. So I can see giving her.

My real question is what will they do with the rest of Infernal Squad? The other three members are all unique and we have not yet seen them commit to limiting people to one unit of special forces.

Exactly. She has fought pretty much the entire war with the Empire so I don't see an issue for her inclusion into the Empire faction. I see less of a problem with her than with Jyn that fought only one battle with the Rebellion and have never met Luke, Han or Leia (in battle at least).

As for the inclusion of the rest of Inferno Squad, if they decide to include them, I could see Hask as a Commander and Del and Seyn as Operative.... but I personally don't think that they will include them into the game... too many other choice available *cough* Second Sister *cough*.

[Lem213 18]

On 11/21/2019 at 11:13 AM, Red Castle said:

Exactly. She has fought pretty much the entire war with the Empire so I don't see an issue for her inclusion into the Empire faction. I see less of a problem with her than with Jyn that fought only one battle with the Rebellion and have never met Luke, Han or Leia (in battle at least).

As for the inclusion of the rest of Inferno Squad, if they decide to include them, I could see Hask as a Commander and Del and Seyn as Operative.... but I personally don't think that they will include them into the game... too many other choice available *cough* Second Sister *cough*.

I would love a 4 mini Operative/Commander box for each faction, with 1 commander that can also be taken as an operative, but the operative version can be a taken with the 3 other minis as counter parts. With the Empire having Inferno squad, the Rebels having the remaining ghost crew, the CIS having... I don't know, really... and the Republic having Delta squad. 

[Lochlan 1,034]

58 minutes ago, Lem213 said:

I would love a 4 mini Operative/Commander box for each faction, with 1 commander that can also be taken as an operative, but the operative version can be a taken with the 3 other minis as counter parts. With the Empire having Inferno squad, the Rebels having the remaining ghost crew, the CIS having... I don't know, really... and the Republic having Delta squad. 

Here's an idea this just gave me: a CIS commander unit, consisting of 3 council members of lesser importance (since I expect several of them might show up as individual commanders at some point). The base unit mini would start very cheap, maybe 60-70 points, with the other minis adding maybe 20 points or so to the cost, plus of course abilities, wounds, etc. Now, what I think would make it really interesting is if each character had 1 command card, so if you wanted to run all three command card you would need all 3 minis. But you could cut stuff to save points if you wanted. 

[Lem213 18]

Maybe CIS could have Bounty Hunters, Cad Bane as the boss man, then the lady bounty hunter, the frisbee head, and the Big ol Robo dude.

[ArcticJedi 154]

15 hours ago, Lem213 said:

Maybe CIS could have Bounty Hunters, Cad Bane as the boss man, then the lady bounty hunter, the frisbee head, and the Big ol Robo dude.

The last 3 you mention never worked for the CIS, and it doesn't seem to fit their characters.

[RyantheFett 532]

1 hour ago, ArcticJedi said:

16 hours ago, Lem213 said:

Maybe CIS could have Bounty Hunters, Cad Bane as the boss man, then the lady bounty hunter, the frisbee head, and the Big ol Robo dude.

The last 3 you mention never worked for the CIS, and it doesn't seem to fit their characters.

Embo worked for the CIS at least twice iirc. Once was with Moralo Eval kidnapping plot. Which is a great arc with that big twist showing the first time Papa Palp tried to have Dooku killed and turn Anakin to the dark side.  Second time was the pretty bad Clovis arc when he work directly under the Senate.

Aurra Sing and C-21 Highsinger I am pretty sure they never work for the CIS, but it has been a really long time since I last watched the Clone Wars........................ Sing does work for Darth Maul before TPM, but I don't think that would count.

I am also in the Cad Bane camp over Jango Fett camp. They pretty much would run the same so it will be interesting to see which way FFG goes. GAR/CIS will only get 3 operatives in the next year and one will be a former commander (my money is on Ventress). So come on Cad Bane and Embo!!

[ArcticJedi 154]

31 minutes ago, RyantheFett said:

Embo worked for the CIS at least twice iirc. Once was with Moralo Eval kidnapping plot. Which is a great arc with that big twist showing the first time Papa Palp tried to have Dooku killed and turn Anakin to the dark side.  Second time was the pretty bad Clovis arc when he work directly under the Senate.

Aurra Sing and C-21 Highsinger I am pretty sure they never work for the CIS, but it has been a really long time since I last watched the Clone Wars........................ Sing does work for Darth Maul before TPM, but I don't think that would count.

I completely forgot abut those, I recently watched the Felucia episode where they fight hondo's gang, and I thought that Lem was talking about the bounty hunters(obviously the "frisbee head" has to be Embo) from there.

[UnitOmega 2,818]

Eh, both probably have their positives and negatives. Jango should actually be in-between Sabine and Boba, since Jango has two guns, but a few more mando tricks - though he has some distinct ones from Boba too - like a saberdart. I mostly would prefer Jango for potential Bounty Hunter references.