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On 10/30/2019 at 9:48 AM, Alpha17 said:

That would be cool.  The Warlords-era/element was one of my favorite parts of the old EU, and I was incredibly disappointed that the new canon chose to completely scrap the idea.  I'm hoping that the Stormtroopers and deathtroopers we see in this aren't just criminal bands, but are an Imperial remnant/holdout faction around a former Admiral/General/Moff. 

I have a working theory that they did not scrap the Imperial warlords, but instead just pushed them back 31 years. So now we will get First Order warlords, a Rey Jedi order, and a New New Republic. Mon Mothma would have been replaced by Leia (RIP Carrie Fisher) while Thawn, Ahsoka, and other fan favorites are also available to be used. With The Rise of Skywalker you can even say the prequels were a remake of Dark Empire. Reborn Senate and the Eclipse traded in for a fleet of Death Star Destroyers.

On 10/30/2019 at 11:10 AM, Alpha17 said:
On 10/30/2019 at 11:04 AM, Red Castle said:

My opinion on those are mixed too. I had a lot of expectation regarding Master & Apprentice since I love everything Claudia Grey wrote so far, but I ended up thinking it was good, but not really memorable. I have yet to read Padme's book or the Dooku one. I found Mace Windu comic boring and Age of Republic comics was hit and miss. I must say though that one of my favorite part of the Shattered Empire comics is when Leia go to Naboo and gets some feeling about the events of Episode 1. Also, I quite liked that in the Aftermath trilogy, we get to see the fate of Jar Jar.

While I agree that there is not much in the current movies that refer to the Prequels (except for Solo's ending.. is it still considered a spoiler a year later?), I don't think it was a rule or bad intention, just a matter of timing. Expect purely to serve fan service (something that I'm never really fond of since I think it's easy entertainment to get into good favor), I don't why they should have included Prequels era things in Episode 7, 8 or Rogue One. They do seems to include a B1 droid in a background in Episode 9 though. And with Disney+ coming and an Obi-Wan serie, I think that it's just a beginning. Time will tell.

I've not read Padme's book, but Dooku's was.... a thing.  It had some good moments, but it had a lot of really odd story choices, and you're left thinking that the Jedi are all jerks... who are always right in the end, thus justifying their jerky attitude.  I liked seeing the fate of Jar Jar, but otherwise hated the rest of Aftermath.

But, as for the films, I think that Rogue One should have/could have included more prequel references, such as the opening scene with Krennic and Deathtroopers.  If he had had Phase II clones and a Republic-era uniform, I think it would have helped bridge the gap, and show his elevation in status later in the movie.  I also think adding some CW-era ships to the battle would have been a nice touch, such as an ARC-170 squadron or a old Venator in the Rebel fleet.  Yes, it would have been fan service, but so was including the Ghost, and that was a nice touch.   Solo had much the same problem, as the early stuff should have shown CW-era weapons and armor rather than it all being Imperial era.

I like to look at Star Wars as a long term investment. Sure they release a lot of crap, but the sheer amount of releases means that good stuff happens just as much as the bad. For every Phasma book we will eventually get a Lost Stars. Sure the prequels stuff may be sparse right now..........and maybe mostly mediocre at best (I sort of like the Dooku book, but maybe because I getting him for Legion very soon lol), but in a few years we should be swimming in comics and books in that era. The main comic series (Star Wars & Aphra) still have not made it to Hoth yet so they are really taking their time on world building.

For the movies I agree that Rouge One and Solo really should have tried to connect the first six movies together better. Now that I think about it Catalyst & Rebel Rising are both really good transition books (have not done the Solo one yet). Both deal with the end of the Clone Wars and have a lot of references to the prequels thrown everywhere. Still no excuse for the movie to throw us a bone to try to make things flow better.

 

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18 hours ago, RyantheFett said:

I have a working theory that they did not scrap the Imperial warlords, but instead just pushed them back 31 years. So now we will get First Order warlords, a Rey Jedi order, and a New New Republic. Mon Mothma would have been replaced by Leia (RIP Carrie Fisher) while Thawn, Ahsoka, and other fan favorites are also available to be used. With The Rise of Skywalker you can even say the prequels were a remake of Dark Empire. Reborn Senate and the Eclipse traded in for a fleet of Death Star Destroyers.

I like to look at Star Wars as a long term investment. Sure they release a lot of crap, but the sheer amount of releases means that good stuff happens just as much as the bad. For every Phasma book we will eventually get a Lost Stars. Sure the prequels stuff may be sparse right now..........and maybe mostly mediocre at best (I sort of like the Dooku book, but maybe because I getting him for Legion very soon lol), but in a few years we should be swimming in comics and books in that era. The main comic series (Star Wars & Aphra) still have not made it to Hoth yet so they are really taking their time on world building.

For the movies I agree that Rouge One and Solo really should have tried to connect the first six movies together better. Now that I think about it Catalyst & Rebel Rising are both really good transition books (have not done the Solo one yet). Both deal with the end of the Clone Wars and have a lot of references to the prequels thrown everywhere. Still no excuse for the movie to throw us a bone to try to make things flow better.

 

Eh, I'm still not convinced, about either statement.  The First Order comes off as more comedic than Zsinj, and yet we're supposed to take them seriously, while Thrawn and co are available to be used.... but haven't been.  And even if they are shoehorned into the next film, I doubt it would be much more than as a cameo.  And, honestly, if they were going to adapt an EU story for the sequels, why on earth would they do so with Dark Empire?  The story was never really that good, in my opinion.

I've not be interested in the vast majority of the comics; every time I look at one I feel like they're trying to milk the original trilogy of nostalgia far more than tell an interesting story.  Having a half dozen Vader series probably doesn't help, nor does the focus on immediately post-ANH and As for the books, I disagree that we get as much good as bad in the new ones.  Overall, the new Thrawn books are OK (first and third books were good, second was meh at best), Lost Stars was good, and Tarkin was Ok.  Dark Disciple was better than I expected, but I give that to being an adaption of CW episodes rather than a new story.  Otherwise, I've not been impressed with anything they've done.  Dooku, Cataylst, and the Battlefront books were below average, and the Aftermath series were some of the worst novels I've read in recent years.  I've never bothered reading Bloodlines nor Phasma (the sequel era just isn't something I care about), but by all accounts, I'm not missing much.  Compare this to the "good old days" when Waru was the dumbest plot point in SW books, and and each new book was going to tell it's own story moving forward, not sell nostalgia nor just fill in the gaps.  (except for Shadows of the Empire, it did all three)

Taking it back to the Mandalorian (and thus back on topic), I have to say that the absence of nostalgic elements (other than ones that make sense, ie, stormtroopers) is a good sign.  Hopefully they'll tell their own, more interesting story in the SW universe than use the show to sell nostalgia, and the story won't suck.  

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21 hours ago, RyantheFett said:

I like to look at Star Wars as a long term investment. Sure they release a lot of crap, but the sheer amount of releases means that good stuff happens just as much as the bad. For every Phasma book we will eventually get a Lost Stars. Sure the prequels stuff may be sparse right now..........and maybe mostly mediocre at best (I sort of like the Dooku book, but maybe because I getting him for Legion very soon lol), but in a few years we should be swimming in comics and books in that era. The main comic series (Star Wars & Aphra) still have not made it to Hoth yet so they are really taking their time on world building.

I personally really loved the book 'Phasma'. In fact, it's one of my personal favorite since Disney's new canon. If I were to classified them in Good, Average and Forgettable category, for the books I read, it would go like this (in no particular order):

Good: Thrawn, Lost Stars, Dark Disciple, Last Shot, Bloodline, Phasma

Average: Master & Apprentice, Before the Awakening, Most Wanted, A New Dawn, Aftermath trilogy, Canto Bight

Forgettable: Thrawn Alliance, Spark of the Resistance, Crimson Squadron, Lords of the Sith, Ahsoka

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2 hours ago, Red Castle said:

I personally really loved the book 'Phasma'. In fact, it's one of my personal favorite since Disney's new canon.

Maybe Phasma was a bad example. I completely respect the book giving us a dark Mad Max style world and showing us a character that is a complete monster with no redeeming qualities (also really sells her actions in 7). I also enjoyed both Huxs, Vi, and Cardinal, and the First Order world building. I just did not like reading so much about Phasma and that is more about personal taste then about the quality of the book.

2 hours ago, Red Castle said:

Good: Thrawn, Lost Stars, Dark Disciple, Last Shot, Bloodline, Phasma

Average: Master & Apprentice, Before the Awakening, Most Wanted, A New Dawn, Aftermath trilogy, Canto Bight

Forgettable: Thrawn Alliance, Spark of the Resistance, Crimson Squadron, Lords of the Sith, Ahsoka

Not bad, not bad. I would argue that Last Shot should not be anywhere near good, but that could be on me since i never really figured out the writing style of the author. I am also super bias about anything Ahsoka, so that book is my reverse Phasma lol.

Throw on top we are getting both the Mandalorian, Resistance Reborn, and Dooku/Rex commander around the same time and its going to be a good month!

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17 minutes ago, RyantheFett said:

Not bad, not bad. I would argue that Last Shot should not be anywhere near good, but that could be on me since i never really figured out the writing style of the author. I am also super bias about anything Ahsoka, so that book is my reverse Phasma lol.

Throw on top we are getting both the Mandalorian, Resistance Reborn, and Dooku/Rex commander around the same time and its going to be a good month!

Yeah, about Ahsoka, I think it was my turn to be a little too harsh with a book. I think it has more to do with my expectations prior to reading the book. She's one of my favorite character of the Star Wars universe and I think I wanted the book to be more than what it wanted to be. Should have put it in the average category. I definetly should give it a second read now that I know what to expect. Probably after the next Clone Wars Season.

About Last Shot, what I really liked about it was how it showed that Han is not a family man, he's not a man to settle and that now that the war has ended, he is bored and desperatly want to go out again. It was fitting to see that while Han and Leia loves each other, their lifestyle was so much different that their separetion was bound to happen, it was only a matter of time. I also loved to see a little more about the relation between Lando and L3. Also, the general story spoke to me because in a Edge of Empire game I'm dming, one of my player (who doesn't know a lot about Star Wars) have an obsession about droids and think about a big conspiracy about droids taking control of the universe... it was weird to read about that in a book. :P 

Regarding Resistance Reborn, I just read the first 2 chapters and I'm already hooked! If it continues like this, it's gonna be one of my favorite for sure!

And for this month, I'll also add the release of Jedi Fallen Order!

Such a great time to be a Star Wars fan!

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52 minutes ago, Chrisael said:

"Your Name will be legendary!"

This could be a hint that the mandalorian IS Boba Fett!

The series takes place after the original trilogy, when Boba is already old Sarlacc snack ;)

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4 minutes ago, costi said:

The series takes place after the original trilogy, when Boba is already old Sarlacc snack ;)

Maybe he escaped the sarlacc! ; ) There are hints in the new books that he does!

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10 minutes ago, Welshie13 said:

UK, Germany, France, Italy and Spain all getting Disney+ on 31st March 2020. I don't want to wait that long to watch the Mandalorian. 😢


Lets the piracy begin! Disney devinitive wants this with this starting Policy.

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14 hours ago, Chrisael said:

"Your Name will be legendary!"

This could be a hint that the mandalorian IS Boba Fett!

It’s been confirmed that this Mandalorian is indeed a Mandalorian, unlike Jango and his clone.

Trust me in my own head Canon the Fett’s, the reason for us being into Mandalorians, is one of them.

But yes,  not Boba Fett.

 

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Spoilers 

 

 

Below are the synopses for the first three episodes:

The Mandalorian

Chapter 1

A Mandalorian bounty hunter tracks a target for a well-paying client.

 

The Mandalorian

Chapter 2

Target in-hand,  The Mandalorian must now contend with scavengers

 

The Mandalorian

Chapter 3

The battered Mandalorian returns to his client for reward.

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20 hours ago, Welshie13 said:

UK, Germany, France, Italy and Spain all getting Disney+ on 31st March 2020. I don't want to wait that long to watch the Mandalorian. 😢

It's time to set sail ;)

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14 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

It’s been confirmed that this Mandalorian is indeed a Mandalorian, unlike Jango and his clone.

Trust me in my own head Canon the Fett’s, the reason for us being into Mandalorians, is one of them.

But yes,  not Boba Fett.

 

Boba and Jango are Mandalorians. Has that been changed in canon? If so than I'm surprised people haven't been super salty about that

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