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How large is Agate's effect? Generally, "you" in an upgrade refers to the ship you're on, so is this our first commander that only affects one ship? I saw someone theorizing that the first part only applies to one ship and the second part is fleetwide, but both parts just say "you," so I can't see any reason to think that isn't all one or the other.

If it's fleetwide, she seems very strong for 20 points. If it's single-ship, she doesn't seem like any other commander in the game. My money is on single-ship, but an official ruling would definitely help.

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41 minutes ago, Teneyedman said:

How large is Agate's effect? Generally, "you" in an upgrade refers to the ship you're on, so is this our first commander that only affects one ship? I saw someone theorizing that the first part only applies to one ship and the second part is fleetwide, but both parts just say "you," so I can't see any reason to think that isn't all one or the other.

If it's fleetwide, she seems very strong for 20 points. If it's single-ship, she doesn't seem like any other commander in the game. My money is on single-ship, but an official ruling would definitely help.

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As far as I understand is only for the ship she is in. If not the wording should be like other commanders, saying for example "During a friendly ship's..." instead of "During your..."

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Just now, Norell said:

Which leads to the question: Does Agate worth taking on anything other than a Starhawk?

As a force multiplier, she’s obviously better multiplying a larger base value.

Byt there are certainly other bonuses to be explored - especially as a “cheap” admiral.

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1 hour ago, Norell said:

Which leads to the question: Does Agate worth taking on anything other than a Starhawk?

We don't actually know that she will be good on the Starhawk since we don't know its defense token suite. 

I think she'll be nice on a Liberty for redundant redirects and since the Liberty can't take ECMs. 

The idea of adding a second brace to an MC80 is also pretty hilarious although I don't know if it's worth 20 points.

I think all of the Rebel Larges will get good use out of her. 

If nothing else, she is a replacement Dodonna for fleets that don't have APTs or bombers.

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2 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Some of those might be included for Agate specifically though, right?

Yes the ISD contained an evade because of Captain Needa. SSD has a scatter for Palpatain. 

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If I had to  guess the Drumstick's natural defensive tokens are Brace, Redirect, Salvo, and Contain. All current large base ships have at least one duplicated defense token, except the drumstick*

 

*Maybe, I'm guessing. We'll know soon enough! 

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14 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

Yes.  She gives you a second MC30 as robust as Landmonition and in the same list with it.

I actually love this concept. My favorite list has 4 MC30s but  it wasn't too competitive. Maybe now I'll give it another try.

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I have a strong suspicion that if you're not using her to give a ship Salvo,  you're doing it wrong.  This opinion may change once the rules are released, but the ability to respond to an attack with your full battery is amazing.

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5 hours ago, Norell said:

I actually love this concept. My favorite list has 4 MC30s but  it wasn't too competitive. Maybe now I'll give it another try.

Played it last night, and loved it. 

2Slicers, 4 MC30s, ACM+OE all around, Lando+Admo on one, Kyrsta+Walex on one, SFO on the other two.

There's surely some tuning to be done, but it was fun and worked fine.

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On 8/2/2019 at 2:14 AM, Mad Cat said:

Yes the ISD contained an evade because of Captain Needa. SSD has a scatter for Palpatain. 

SSD has even a full set of 5 defense tokens for Palpatine. I asssume the Starhawk will have the same (5 extra defense tokens, all but the scatter).

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4 minutes ago, Tokra said:

SSD has even a full set of 5 defense tokens for Palpatine. I asssume the Starhawk will have the same (5 extra defense tokens, all but the scatter).

I hope the ballista came with an extra salvo one to supply Palpa.

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