ovinomanc3r 3,846 Posted August 1 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Captain_Nemo said: Yes, Piett only affects his Flagship aswell Nope he doesn't He is an exhaust card but can provide his effect to every ship Edited August 1 by ovinomanc3r 1 SoonerTed reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Cat 2,089 Posted August 1 1 minute ago, xanderf said: Yeah, that's really the only logical way to read that. Still, though...5 copies of the salvo token. That's...surprising. Possibly any ship in the game can replace a (non contain hopefully) defence token for a Salvo token. Or maybe only medium - Large ships etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,190 Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, Captain_Nemo said: Yes, Piett only affects his Flagship aswell @Drasnighta Well this is kinda awkward, did I miss something? I am... Piett can effect any ship in your fleet - only one of them a turn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain_Nemo 162 Posted August 1 Just now, ovinomanc3r said: Nope he doesn't Yeah, I kinda had his ability wrong in my head, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovinomanc3r 3,846 Posted August 1 9 minutes ago, Darth Sanguis said: So are we not gonna talk about the Onager being able to fire beyond red range? Why not? That's the only thing that made me think on this ship as something I wanna play 1 Darth Sanguis reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightrock 829 Posted August 1 (edited) She's absolutely amazing, even for just one ship. She's dirt cheap and can potentially make some ships viable and viable ships downright awesome. MC75, Liberty and Nebulon could really use a redirect. Admonition would be crazy with brace. ****, even Home One wouldn't mind an evade or a second brace. She's gonna see a lot of table time folks. EDIT: seriosly asmodee, H E L L is a forbidden word now? I mean, I understand you want to keep the language civil but that one's straight from Bible for chrissakes. Just to test: I'm gonna use another one from bible and if you don't censor this one, you're biased. Here it goes: heaven Edited August 1 by Lightrock 3 4 Darth Sanguis, Madaghmire, benskywalker and 4 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Madaghmire 7,083 Posted August 1 6 minutes ago, bleezy said: Wow does she really only affect your flagship? That's what it sounds like now. That seems pretty expensive honestly, compared to ECM. Yeah you get an extra token, but still. It still has a lot of value in simply being a cheap way to fill the commander slot and providing access to tokens ships were balanced around not having. Its ECM effect however, is strictly worse, and you may still want to run ECM’s with it on a larger ship. Or Walex. 1 DblVsdGuy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NightAngel47 73 Posted August 1 I'm starting to see the more restricted version of reading her card. Less exciting, but still potentially great. 1 Madaghmire reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Madaghmire 7,083 Posted August 1 Just now, NightAngel47 said: I'm starting to see the more restricted version of reading her card. Less exciting, but still potentially great. Yeah lets get the f*** off this hill and go live by the sea 5 Maturin, ovinomanc3r, ArmaggedonPSA and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovinomanc3r 3,846 Posted August 1 Just now, Madaghmire said: It still has a lot of value in simply being a cheap way to fill the commander slot and providing access to tokens ships were balanced around not having. Its ECM effect however, is strictly worse, and you may still want to run ECM’s with it on a larger ship. Or Walex. To be honest. Considering what Salvo token does. If she was fleetwide, man!, that's almost Rieekan prenerf! 1 JJ48 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hufflazon 38 Posted August 1 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Drasnighta said: Feel Free. But remember, “You” or “ Your” is “the ship this is equipped on” That's true. Especially for 20 points that's probably what she does. But it's pretty boring. Edited August 1 by hufflazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drasnighta 26,190 Posted August 1 Just now, hufflazon said: That's true. Especially for 20 points that's probably what she does. But it's incredibly boring. Maybe, but you can do odd things... For 25 points total you can give A ship effectively 2 more braces... (Agate + Walex) 1 Green Knight reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovinomanc3r 3,846 Posted August 1 I am curious about how a yaw value at speed 0 is gonna be resolve. 1 Madaghmire reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NightAngel47 73 Posted August 1 Just now, ovinomanc3r said: I am curious about how a yaw value at speed 0 is gonna be resolve. Also excited to see this. I like the idea of it just camping in back and sniping at long range 1 Madaghmire reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperspace Ninja 95 Posted August 1 Some reads I've caught overlooking spreads Heavy fire zone(TL): While attacking a squadron before gathering dice if the defender is not engaged with a friendly squadron you may replace all your blue dice in your squadron armament with red dice. Krysta (officer): Red or blue crit(?). you can resolve spend critical effects... salvo interesting refence of this card is possibly salvo attacks can not naturally spend crit dice for effects. Wede(?)(officer) before... squadron... may spend... choose...sqaud(?)... strategic(?)...thoose...cloak Gunnery Chief Varine(weapons team) After you deploy place 1... die set to a blank face on this card. If you are second player set it to any face instead. While attacking a ship (you) may exchange 1 dice from (your) attack pool with the die (on) this card. Both dice ??? set to the same face 1 NightAngel47 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Madaghmire 7,083 Posted August 1 1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said: To be honest. Considering what Salvo token does. If she was fleetwide, man!, that's almost Rieekan prenerf! I’m not 100% sure what salvo does yet/what restrictions there are on it. I think one of the cards in the rebel set thats hidden lets you resolve crit effects while using salvo (speculative...I’m doing some guesswork at what im reading). You may also not be able to use upgrades while using salvo. I have no idea. So I’m not really thinking about how it balances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NightAngel47 73 Posted August 1 While it would make no sense, my brain's immediate response to the Salvo token allowing ships to return fire "shot for shot", was that they would attack back with the same dice pool the attacker just used. Which would lead to the hilarious situation of a GR75 swinging back at an ISD with 8 dice. 1 OgRib reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xero989 890 Posted August 1 51 minutes ago, Wraithdt said: I think you need to read the whole text of the card. The last few lines say it does not remove a die even if the attack is also obstructed by a card effect. Sounds like he does counter Cracken. The excat text is "even if it is also" meaning in addition to. So the card is adding a die if LOS is blocked by a ship or obstical and negatests obstructed from card effects, but only if LOS is blocked by a ship or obsitcal. If you are just obstructed because of a card effect and there are no ships or obsticals in the way you still will lose a die. 1 Captain_Nemo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovinomanc3r 3,846 Posted August 1 Salvo token was just developed to prevent @Drasnighta to successfully introduce his correction regarding the "attack" definition. It actually does nothing. 4 The Jabbawookie, Madaghmire, Darth Sanguis and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eliteone 453 Posted August 1 58 minutes ago, xanderf said: That 'extra defense token' thing really is bonkers, though. + + Hmmm....what defense token to add...what defense token to add... So, is the max for a Neb-B able to hit 4, if you use enough Repair Commands/Tokens, or if I Recover and Move 1 to 2, then can I move 2 to 3, and 3 to 4? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovinomanc3r 3,846 Posted August 1 9 minutes ago, Hyperspace Ninja said: Some reads I've caught overlooking spreads Heavy fire zone(TL): While attacking a squadron before gathering dice if the defender is not engaged with a friendly squadron you may replace all your blue dice in your squadron armament with red dice. Krysta (officer): Red or blue crit(?). you can resolve spend critical effects... salvo interesting refence of this card is possibly salvo attacks can not naturally spend crit dice for effects. Wede(?)(officer) before... squadron... may spend... choose...sqaud(?)... strategic(?)...thoose...cloak Gunnery Chief Varine(weapons team) After you deploy place 1... die set to a blank face on this card. If you are second player set it to any face instead. While attacking a ship (you) may exchange 1 dice from (your) attack pool with the die (on) this card. Both dice ??? set to the same face There is one title? of the imperial ship that exhaust/discard? some upgrade cards as a black/blue critical effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hufflazon 38 Posted August 1 1 hour ago, bleezy said: Is her second ability basically proof against Intel Officer and Avenger? I've changed my mind. I will gladly pay 20 points for Avenger insurance on any MC80. 2 1 Maturin, Darth Sanguis and Ardaedhel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Cat 2,089 Posted August 1 34 minutes ago, Lightrock said: She's absolutely amazing, even for just one ship. She's dirt cheap and can potentially make some ships viable and viable ships downright awesome. MC75, Liberty and Nebulon could really use a redirect. Admonition would be crazy with brace. ****, even Home One wouldn't mind an evade or a second brace. She can also be a Rebel Captain Needa for only 10 times the cost. Mon Karren with TRCs anyone? 1 deDios reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muelmuel 655 Posted August 1 28 minutes ago, Hyperspace Ninja said: Some reads I've caught overlooking spreads Heavy fire zone(TL): While attacking a squadron before gathering dice if the defender is not engaged with a friendly squadron you may replace all your blue dice in your squadron armament with red dice. Krysta (officer): Red or blue crit(?). you can resolve spend critical effects... salvo interesting refence of this card is possibly salvo attacks can not naturally spend crit dice for effects. Wede(?)(officer) before... squadron... may spend... choose...sqaud(?)... strategic(?)...thoose...cloak Gunnery Chief Varine(weapons team) After you deploy place 1... die set to a blank face on this card. If you are second player set it to any face instead. While attacking a ship (you) may exchange 1 dice from (your) attack pool with the die (on) this card. Both dice ??? set to the same face Yea if I read HFZ right, they swap out blues for reds and allow you to swat flies at long range. Nasty with Krennic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green Knight 8,622 Posted August 1 38 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said: I am curious about how a yaw value at speed 0 is gonna be resolve. It can do that? Maybe move speed 1 from rear base? Like an SSD. Only thing I can think of. Not a perfect solution, but ships 'drift' when they turn already, so the man tool isn't that accurate. If not, then some special tool or template in the expansion box. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites