MasterShake2 5,184 Posted July 19, 2019 https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/7/19/the-last-of-the-jedi/ 1 1 Tirion and BenBot reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manoftomorrow010 1,119 Posted July 19, 2019 bang! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterShake2 5,184 Posted July 19, 2019 Man, Vader with Infiltrate and Scout. He's like Jason levels of sneaky, always moves at a brisk walk, then there he is in front of you. 1 2 smickletz, Tokous and Tirion reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tirion 2,223 Posted July 19, 2019 That Vader is incredible! Also shout out to whoever guessed the interchangeable command cards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manoftomorrow010 1,119 Posted July 19, 2019 Darkness Descends is extremely awesome. I think this Vader will see plenty of table time. I also love Fear, a good cheap counterpart to "Hope." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterShake2 5,184 Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, manoftomorrow010 said: Darkness Descends is extremely awesome. I think this Vader will see plenty of table time. I also love Fear, a good cheap counterpart to "Hope." I mean, the cards are interchangable, so you could totally sneak up on someone with 200pt Vader as well... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DewbackScout 178 Posted July 19, 2019 Where's my Dewback article, FFG? I'll take a Vader operative ... on a Dewback. 1 3 FearofaBlankPlanet, anthemius, twincast and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterShake2 5,184 Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, DewbackScout said: Where's my Dewback article, FFG? I'll take a Vader operative ... on a Dewback. He does have spur, basically the same 1 starbat861 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manoftomorrow010 1,119 Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, MasterShake2 said: I mean, the cards are interchangable, so you could totally sneak up on someone with 200pt Vader as well... Yeah, true, that will help 200 point Vader a lot haha I just meant this Vader will see plenty of play, since he, by himself, is 30 points cheaper. "Scatter" has to be an effect similar to Force Push, where you can perform a move with a unit that takes damage from his Force Throw attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caimheul1313 2,990 Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, manoftomorrow010 said: Yeah, true, that will help 200 point Vader a lot haha I just meant this Vader will see plenty of play, since he, by himself, is 30 points cheaper. "Scatter" has to be an effect similar to Force Push, where you can perform a move with a unit that takes damage from his Force Throw attack. At the "cost" of having a courage value and therefore (theoretically) vulnerable to suppression. BUT between Spur and Force Throw, I think it's basically a straight upgrade. I can't say I'm too surprised, I think I called this VERY early on with the subtitles being used to release "different" versions of named units. It is also interesting to get confirmation that all versions of Luke/Darth Vader can use any of the released cards. Which does give some more value to the Imperial generic 1 pip even if your opponent is running a Luke only or Vader only list. 1 twincast reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flightmaster101 1,568 Posted July 19, 2019 Can anyone see what the title of Vader's ranged attack is? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterShake2 5,184 Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, flightmaster101 said: Can anyone see what the title of Vader's ranged attack is? force throw 1 flightmaster101 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manoftomorrow010 1,119 Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said: At the "cost" of having a courage value and therefore (theoretically) vulnerable to suppression. BUT between Spur and Force Throw, I think it's basically a straight upgrade. I can't say I'm too surprised, I think I called this VERY early on with the subtitles being used to release "different" versions of named units. It is also interesting to get confirmation that all versions of Luke/Darth Vader can use any of the released cards. Which does give some more value to the Imperial generic 1 pip even if your opponent is running a Luke only or Vader only list. Yeah, I agree totally, this Vader overall, has better gains over his losses compared to big boy Vader. He gains 2 keywords, an additional attack, and a training slot, while losing a Force upgrade slot, infinite courage, 1 red Lightsaber die, and 2 HP. Edited July 19, 2019 by manoftomorrow010 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GalacticFist 202 Posted July 19, 2019 Hey guys, Legion-hq.com (and legion-hq.herokuapp.com later today) has been updated with these new cards. I will also be putting in Hope (force upgrade) and Force Guidance (force upgrade) in a bit. 😉 5 1 Steck638, Tirion, twincast and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
werdnaegni 1,563 Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) Tabletop Admiral updated. Will have to change some logic around to make cards available to both Lukes. Edit: Should be straight now. Edited July 19, 2019 by werdnaegni 8 3 Ghost Dancer, Xclbr1, Tirion and 8 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weikel 68 Posted July 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, manoftomorrow010 said: Yeah, I agree totally, this Vader overall, has better gains over his losses compared to big boy Vader. He gains 2 keywords, an additional attack, and a training slot, while losing a Force upgrade slot, infinite courage, 1 red Lightsaber die, and 2 HP. Losing infinite courage means he finally gets cover from suppression. That might be in the "pro" column. 1 weebaer reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caimheul1313 2,990 Posted July 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, manoftomorrow010 said: Yeah, I agree totally, this Vader overall, has better gains over his losses compared to big boy Vader. He gains 2 keywords, an additional attack, and a training slot, while losing a Force upgrade slot, infinite courage, 1 red Lightsaber die, and 2 HP. The other thing this Vader "loses" is being moved to the Operative slot, so you have to take a commander as well, which probably means Imperial Commander with Electrobinoculars (aka discount Veers) is going to see more play. Honestly I almost see that as another bump, since now you don't need to worry about keeping other units in range for orders (unless you want to use some of his "commander" cards). 1 starbat861 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caimheul1313 2,990 Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, Weikel said: Losing infinite courage means he finally gets cover from suppression. That might be in the "pro" column. Yes, but you also lose the "no panic" bubble. 1 starbat861 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gothound 60 Posted July 19, 2019 What happens when you Change of Plans Darkness Decends? Both say must I believe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manoftomorrow010 1,119 Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, gothound said: What happens when you Change of Plans Darkness Decends? Both say must I believe It is revealed during the Deploy Units step, during Setup. Change of Plans does not affect any of that paragraph. It would only affect the "gains 2 Surge tokens" part. Ah, the "must be selected" part. hmm. I'd say you select Darkness Descends, then Change of Plans puts it back into your hand. Then you go back to the select step, and maybe you pick a non-Darkness card? That seems logical to me, since the Vader player did technically choose it during Round 1. Edited July 19, 2019 by manoftomorrow010 1 starbat861 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gothound 60 Posted July 19, 2019 Change of plans says "Return a card to hand" and I believe Darkness is on the table, so it would go back and Vader would deploy as normal, I think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HelHound 142 Posted July 19, 2019 Luke rolling seven black dice with Impact 2, Pierce 2, and surge to crit is pretty **** great! Vader with Infiltrate, Scout 1, Spur, and Relentless is a scary potential turn 1 enemy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manoftomorrow010 1,119 Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, gothound said: Change of plans says "Return a card to hand" and I believe Darkness is on the table, so it would go back and Vader would deploy as normal, I think No, when Vader deploys, Change of Plans is just in your deck, deployment happens during setup, before Round 1. Change of Plans cannot affect deployment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HaranHaste 137 Posted July 19, 2019 How did they screw up painting the Luke miniature? His flap is clearly open, but the inside portion should be white/grey-ish, not black. 1 2 starbat861, twincast and Fistofriles reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gothound 60 Posted July 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, manoftomorrow010 said: No, when Vader deploys, Change of Plans is just in your deck, deployment happens during setup, before Round 1. Change of Plans cannot affect deployment. Ahhh, looks like Han can't talk his way out of this one 2 weebaer and Tirion reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
