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As much as I love D2E, I think they should go with the 3rd edition. Personally I can't remember when I last used RAW, using Imperial Assault rules is so much better, the app uses slightly different rules and so many cards and abilities just don't work in it... I think that 3ed with app integration from the start would be a good way to go.

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1 hour ago, Borsook said:

I think that 3ed with app integration from the start would be a good way to go.

I don't ! I wish there will be game playable without any app and I love playing the Overlord. Or maybe an app for emulating heroes so I can crush them ? Fine. 

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3 hours ago, rugal said:

I don't ! I wish there will be game playable without any app and I love playing the Overlord. Or maybe an app for emulating heroes so I can crush them ? Fine. 

I agree, I love playing the Overlord too, but the app does not have to be obligatory, what I would like is to know it was thought about instead of "this ability does not work". Also - D2E really has a lot of content as it is, D3E would be a much better business decision. In the worst case scenario - if D3E requires an app at least then I will have a reason to keep both :D

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Nothing have been mentioned for the Terrinoth in latest Gen Con's In Flight Report. Except for the confirmation of the closure for RuneWars Miniature Game.

So... its officialy dead, huh? I've wanted to tell not to support Asmodee's FFG, but... its kinda useless. With Disney licenses they will always have profit, until the day it will be taken away from them, due to declining sales.

But I don't want to be bitter. Welp, too bitter. Instead I want to say thank you to the people who worked on Terrinoth and made such marvelous games. I'm sure not much of you is still in this company and there is not much chances that you'll read this. But still I will say Thank You. From the bottom of my heart.

P.S.I still hope that Corey, who recently left FFG for his new company under Asmodee will do something with Terrinoth, due to experimental nature of his new company. One can dream.

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Last year during Gen-Con the did the same thing..... On facebook twitter and small hints on FFG HP - One week after GenCon the anounced Discover: Lands Unknown.

maybe something is ...... i hope

 

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On 7/19/2019 at 8:05 PM, Lightningclaw said:

—Scouts—

Bogran The Shadow

Kirga

Tobin Farslayer

Red Scorpion (new miniature in Runebound)

—Warriors—

Laughin Buldar (my favorite name)

Eliam (new miniature in Runebound)

Hugo The Glorious

Varikas The Dead 

—Mages—

Mad Carthos

Landrec The Wise (new art in Heroes Of Terrinoth)

—Healers—

Aurim

Brother Glyr

Varikas, Red Scorpion, Mad Carthos, and Brother Glyr all have artwork present in the app. New artwork, too. It’s a reasonable guess that they were part of a canned hero and monster collection.

Don't forget the as before not-in-the game character Shadar Runearmour also being in that old app art- and finally appearing in-game with new art  - as the cover of 'Lost Legends' the title of which I still think is a possible easter egg in itself- I'm betting it's a hint the missing heroes are actually on the way- eventually.... (but not with any actual Terrinoth gold coin because this is after all FFG aka the games division of the Disney World Domination Corp - not knocking the mouse just having a bit of a joke, I can't crit the mouse seeing as I do want to see The Lion King and TS4 and am as Disneyfied as the next person having grown up with the films many of which are classics after all but they do seem a little eager to own / dominate everything, oh - FFG's new title is a Marvel game.... Hey, stuff creativity, let's not bother with much of our own universes anymore when there's some mainstream fodder to scoff up, rant over *cough*ip's*cough*what about your own worlds*cough*...)

 

There has been quite a bit of new artwork, the Genesys sourcebook used a mix of old and new, take a browse - there's some new characters that may not be in the games (I don't have Heroes or Dragonholt yet as I've been trying to collect Runewars Miniatures to compliment my Descent kit for RPG use, *facepalms*, something else I'll never complete my wishlist of unless I can grab what's left- really wanted the Uthuk set and some of the Uthuk and Latari range too, oh well, managed to get some of them, so some of them may be in these- I know at least one of the catfolk is in Dragonholt from the news releases, which also points out the caveat that comes with the new artwork- it may not all have been designed for Descent.)

 

The positive is it only makes sense to me using Shadar on the new deck art if she's going to be in the game, the only exception being if FFG were super-lazy and never bothered to change an old design for the cover that was sitting round in the archive but is no longer relevant, which I somehow doubt, or maybe they just saw Princess Leia through their SW/DisneyvisionTM glasses - "yeah, that'll do- it's another Star Wars game innit?" But look closely at Shadar's hair- does it not seem a bit familiar? Is there not a connection to some of the missing characters- and indeed their newer artwork?

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/2/11/lost-legends/

 

Anyway, although we all want FFG to complete the game and maybe surprise us with something new, as some of us have said before fans are still making 'stuff' (FFG's term for work in progress, often slow-burn work in progress :) ) so there is still new content- Rugal, Sadgit and some others have made some pretty impressive fan add-ons which are being tested and tweaked now, I'm still working on things albeit with a current break while I sort some stuff at the flat, so there is new content now and into 2020 and beyond, whatever FFG do- and it looks like RWM fans will even keep a modest community of RWM stalwarts going, people were hoovering up cheap sets at the UK Games Expo (sadly the suspicion as to why there were cheap now having been confirmed, but it still shows the interest is there, even at a discount people don't buy something that doesn't interest them)- if you tend to go the custom creative route with your games and can get any cheap RWM stuff that appeals before it's gone grab it- they're good minis if they fit your ideas. I've been using them for some of my ideas and now people won't have them, mind you I can still run games with them so not a total time kill, proxy time for other peeps! I'm still going to try and get them as once they're gone they'll be gone- some key characters such as Ravos, leader of the Uthuk and interesting ideas from them.

 

I feel we're probably a bit rough on FFG though- games do fade out and cease to be or eventually make a comeback and the old criticism they never listen to fans might not be totally true- the Genesys community have been asking for player created content support and FFG have delivered- much in the way players were asking for - if they continue to do so it can only be a good thing for Genesys as closed RPG systems tend not to fare too well against their established more open rivals:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/8/2/the-genesys-foundry/

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/cc/27/genesys-foundry

FFG: "We’ve provided support material such as Genesys layout templates, collections of art including pieces for the Terrinoth and Android settings, and other resources that you can use in your products. There are some rules for how to use them, which can be found in our Content Guidelines. If you plan on creating your own content, we recommend you check out these guidelines to get a feel of what is and is not allowed." Something else I need to check out when the flat-related things are out of the way.

I feel ditching the RWM minis is a missed opportunity- if FFG were smart there's money in minis for RPG use- was curious so asked around at the expo and quite a few people do buy minis and terrain for RPG use, even without being interested in the rest of the game/kit it's with, FFG maybe don't realize how valuable their own IP could be managed better, RWM could have complimented Terrinoth set adventures nicely.

 

Still think they need to bring it all together a bit more cohesively, get it right and it's as useful to them as any IP setting business-wise.

 

Finally though the one upside of RWM's demise is maybe FFG will at least be able to focus more on other Terrinoth projects. They should make use of some of the new characters too- some of them would be great for Descent and the other games.

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...this is just cruel if nothing is incoming- cats are smart, listen to the cat and obey FFG :)

Put the cat with the game and it will be the best selling game ever :) The -actual- living catfolk expansion :)

 

Link: https://www.facebook.com/FantasyFlightGames/photos/a.377463327142/10156137483957143/?type=3&theater

 

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cat expansion

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On 7/19/2019 at 3:34 PM, Lightningclaw said:

That’s the less encouraging part. 😁 This was posted almost three years ago here: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/24159315#24159315

There’s also four never before seen heroes there too.

Do you really want face mask no shirt? He's a real weirdo...

Seriously though as much as I'd like Varakas the dead I don't think the heroes should be a priority for them. At one hero per campaign there's already way more heroes than almost anybody will ever play. 

 

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46 minutes ago, Bucho said:

Do you really want face mask no shirt? He's a real weirdo...

Seriously though as much as I'd like Varakas the dead I don't think the heroes should be a priority for them. At one hero per campaign there's already way more heroes than almost anybody will ever play. 

 

Since we have orc pirate man, Vincent van Gogh, and circus pants Tahlia, I figured he’d fit right in.

You’re right though. Am I ever going to see Dezra or Steelhorns taken through an entire campaign? Probably not.

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11 hours ago, Lightningclaw said:

 

You’re right though. Am I ever going to see Dezra or Steelhorns taken through an entire campaign? Probably not.

I have. And they can be good choices especially steelhorns

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16 hours ago, Lightningclaw said:

Since we have orc pirate man, Vincent van Gogh, and circus pants Tahlia, I figured he’d fit right in.

You’re right though. Am I ever going to see Dezra or Steelhorns taken through an entire campaign? Probably not.

You know the only thing surprising about oops the orc is that nobody else has a single scar... I would think that venturing into small spaces to fight large dragons would be dangerous business. Tahlia is a good point though....why is she wearing pants AND a skirt? Especially when the other characters make it clear that pants haven't been invented yet?.....? Wait a second...the giants have pants too....is it JUST circus pants that exist in terrinoth....

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