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I've gotten some research in on this so far.  Figure I'd pitch it out there for the rest of ya.

Short sum = there's a number of 1e and promotional heroes that have not been given proper figure-update treatments.  For people who jumped in during 2e it doesn't make as much financial sense to backtrack and buy the old expansions for the older-generation less-refined models, sadly.  Compounding the issue is that it doesn't seem like FFG is going to release any more H&M sets for Descent in the foreseeable future (maybe down the line, but not for a long while).

So that's what this thread is for.  Providing proxies and suggestions for the different `1e heroes that were given a card in the conversion kit, but not an update.

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So here's the recap list of said heroes

Bogran the Shadow
Landrec the Wise
Mad Carthos
Varikas the Dead
Brother Glyr
Aurim
Kirga
Laughin Buldar
Hugo the Glorious
Tobin Farslayer
Red Scorpion

Here's a gallery of all the 1e heroe figures, courtesy of @Sadgit
https://www.pinterest.de/Sadgit/descent-1ed-painted-heroes/

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And here's some accurate proxies I found ...

 

- Red Scorpion
https://www.cardhaus.com/runebound-third-edition-the-gilded-blade-adventure-pack/
An actual current gen sculpt of the Red Scorpion, plus at $15-ish you can consider this a lieutenant's blister pack.  Not even a proxie at this point.

 

- Lendrec the Wise
https://darkelfdice.com/collections/druid-miniatures/products/dark-heaven-legends-roshtand-the-green-arch-druid-3179-25mm-miniatures
One other one.  kinda easier to get a bald wizard with a staff

Brother Glyr
https://www.reapermini.com/search/figurefinder+dwarf/latest/02236
little thin for a dwarf, but he's just about exactly on model

Bogran the Shadow
https://darkelfdice.com/collections/pathfinder-miniatures/products/pathfinder-miniatures-60057
FFG created an orc Batman and Robin with Nara and Bogran.  Finding suitable figures was darned well impossible.  This guy came REALLY close, though.  He looks like a vigilante and wears a leather hood.

- Hugo the Glorious
https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/dhl/latest/03868
Hugo rolls a black die.  So making him HUGE may be a good idea (even if this guy doesn't have a cape)

- Varikas the Dead
https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/necropolis/latest/14169
just missing little wing horns, but this guy's super close to on model

- Mad Carthos
https://darkelfdice.com/collections/magic-user-miniatures/products/reaper-miniatures-leisynn-wizard-mage-14060-rpg-28mm-minis
The model sells the concept of "unethical wizard" and he has the ram horns ... however I couldn't find any half-naked murder-hobos as a good proxie.

- Laughin Buldar
https://www.reapermini.com/search/kord the destroyer/latest/77061
the armor's off model, but the ferocity here is top notch

- Tobin Farslayer
https://darkelfdice.com/collections/ranger-miniatures/products/pathfinder-miniatures-kaer-maga-duskwarden-60150-rpg-25mm-minis
if you're willing to ditch the armor, this guy can easily work for a Tobin

- Aurim
https://www.fantization.com/Male_Jack_Wearing_Turban_Numenera.aspx
This guy's surprisingly spot on Could easily pass
https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/pathfinder/latest/60179
This one's a REALLY close second if you want him to look more action-ready.

- Kirga
https://darkelfdice.com/collections/thief-miniatures/products/reaper-miniatures-rogan-half-orc-thief-3278-rpg-25mm-minis
A more stalker pose, same benefits, tho

 

 

 

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And some honorable mentions

Eliam
Runebound - Unbreakable Bonds
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/ffgrb06.html
It's an actual current-gen sculpt of Eliam and it looks really cool.  
The reason it's an honorable mention is that the other hero in the kit is Tatianna ... who's already in an H&M kit.  So unless you're invested in Runebound already (which I've heard great things about), it may be hard to justify a $35 purchase for a single fig.


Tobin Farslayer
https://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/fantasy-adventurers/***-ranger-in-leather-armour/
This figure's a bearded archer ... though this guy's also more of a ragged ranger than Evil-Sherrif-of-Nottingham

Laughin Buldar
https://www.reapermini.com/search/barbarian/latest/77199
missing the headdress, but he's definitely got the attitude and gear otherwise
https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/warlord/latest/03309
I -love- this pose and attitude, though I suspect it's too big for a single tile.

- Aurim
https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/dhl/latest/03954
So ... not accurate at all, but it's a cool sculpt
https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/dhl/latest/02447
I'm honestly surprised at how hard it is to find a persian aesthetic 25mm figure that isn't in persian battle armor.  this one's a bit off mark but could work

- Brother Glyn
https://www.reapermini.com/search/figurefinder+dwarf/latest/02607
really close to on model
https://darkelfdice.com/collections/dwarf-miniatures/products/dark-heaven-legends-dark-dwarf-pounder-3898-25mm-miniatures
Surprisingly similar style of sculpt render.  The armors a bit off, but it is a balding dwarf with a big hammer.

- Bogran the Shadow
https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/pathfinder/latest/60203
an ok alternative, not great, though

- Kirga
https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/dhl/latest/03584
honorable mention only in that I don't know if Kirga's supposed to be an orc or a goblin.  If he's a goblin?  this will do.  Otherwise he'd be too diminuative.
https://darkelfdice.com/collections/assassin-miniatures/products/dark-heaven-legends-half-orc-assassin-3070-25mm-miniatures
if you're willing to ditch the full body cloak, you'll get this assassin with twin daggers in a cool pose.
** there's some confusion I saw online if Kirga was male or female.  My above recommends were for male, but some OLD posts from 1e might indicate female.  If so, here's a couple ...
https://www.etsy.com/listing/506846628/half-orc-librarian-miniature-unpainted?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=female+orc+miniature&ref=sr_gallery-1-16&organic_search_click=1&frs=1
https://www.etsy.com/listing/520655147/half-orc-necromancer-miniature-unpainted?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=female+orc+miniature&ref=sr_gallery-1-20&organic_search_click=1&frs=1
finding female-orc-rogues is SUPER sparse.  you might have to hero-forge this one.

- Eliam
https://darkelfdice.com/collections/ranger-miniatures/products/dark-heaven-legends-elf-ranger-3763-25mm-miniatures
in case you don't want to drop the money into the aforementioned Runebound system ... you may have to settle for any elf with 2 blades
https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/dhl/latest/03647
another alternative

- Hugo the Glorious
https://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/fantasy-adventurers/***-paladin-in-plate-armour/
https://darkelfdice.com/products/pathfinder-miniatures-holy-vindicator-paladin-60111-rpg-25mm-minis
https://darkelfdice.com/products/reaper-miniatures-almaran-the-gold-paladin-3292-rpg-25mm-minis
https://darkelfdice.com/products/reaper-miniatures-ivy-crown-captain-14508-rpg-25mm-minis

- Lendrec the Wise
https://www.reapermini.com/search/wizard/latest/77404
a bald wizard.  spear instead of a twisty stick, but the figure's a decent design overall
https://darkelfdice.com/collections/monk-miniatures/products/pathfinder-miniatures-zayafid-monk-60154-rpg-25mm-minis
no twisty stick but it deffinitely works.

- Varikas the Dead
https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/dungeondwellers/latest/07001
a little less dramatic than the other guy, but also more on model

- Mad Carthos
https://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/fantasy-adventurers/fa73-evil-magic-user-with-staff
Great stylized sculpt with ramhorns headdress, but this guy's even more "Tim" than the other one

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aaaaaaaand ... I actually dug up proxies for everyone.  Hooray.

If you have different suggestions or ideas on proxies, please do let us know.  I'll also update the OP with them.

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That's a little unfortunate about Red.  Oddly I couldn't find a proper alternative for red scorpion on the market.  (you'd think dancy dagger lady would be an easy find).

If y'all see any good proxies, let me know.

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Posted (edited)

so I tried looking for any info on Brother Glyr and stumbled on this thread ...

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1667128/unreleased-heros

 

Great, so now there's 4 more unreleased heroes to get proxies for.  lol

plus side, I feel better about some of the proxies.  especially Mad Carthos.

 

 

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got some proxies for the unrleased heroes I linked above ... because I was bored

https://www.reapermini.com/search/druid/latest/03843

https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/mage/latest/60009

https://www.reapermini.com/search/female dwarf/latest/14082

https://www.reapermini.com/miniatures/warlord+male+elf/latest/03195

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34 minutes ago, Lightningclaw said:

I don’t know about Red Scorpion specifically, but I know the Runebound minis are slightly smaller.

That's really unfortunate, I don't think I'd want the games scale to vary anymore than it already has.

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Question for oldschool folks = is Kirga male or female?

I don't have access to the 1e books, and info provided from the conversion kit was sparse.  However, sifting through old info online I saw a few people refer to kirga as "she".

 

So yeah, if you happen to know ... please let me know.  ^^

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