GreatMazinkaiser 1,335 Posted June 17, 2019 Tomb Kings... *cries softly* 2 Obvious_Ninja and lologrelol reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TauntaunScout 4,280 Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, GreatMazinkaiser said: Tomb Kings... *cries softly* For me personally they don't even release that much good stuff any more. I covet a much smaller fraction of the contents of the GW webstore than I used to. But I'm also very lucky to have a FLGS that carries dozens of brands of miniatures so I become much more aware of the competition. Such as SW:L. Seeing boxes and boxes of snow troopers on a shelf definitely helped hook me into the game. I will make the most of the release delays by catching up on other stuff. I have to make a bunch of SW costumes for the family and I have other games to paint on for awhile. Edited June 18, 2019 by TauntaunScout Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged Gundark 21 Posted June 18, 2019 21 hours ago, TauntaunScout said: And Bretonnian players. Bretonnians last update was what 2003-4? That army book can vote soon. 2 Fistofriles and Proton Torpedo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TauntaunScout 4,280 Posted June 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, Winged Gundark said: Bretonnians last update was what 2003-4? That army book can vote soon. And it wasn’t even an update. It was the rug being pulled from under us. Unlike many other factions Bretonnia was not allowed to accrue a robust collection because each edition (except several editions where they got nothing) was a total restart from the ground up. Honestly the circa 2003 army book left me too jaded to be shocked by AoS. 1 Proton Torpedo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fistofriles 126 Posted June 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said: And it wasn’t even an update. It was the rug being pulled from under us. Unlike many other factions Bretonnia was not allowed to accrue a robust collection because each edition (except several editions where they got nothing) was a total restart from the ground up. Honestly the circa 2003 army book left me too jaded to be shocked by AoS. i feel the same way i still have my army and have not played since 2003 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TauntaunScout 4,280 Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Fistofriles said: i feel the same way i still have my army and have not played since 2003 You may say I'm a dreamer, but the eBay prices for Bretonnians show I'm not the only one... Edited June 18, 2019 by TauntaunScout Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZebioLizard2 12 Posted June 18, 2019 On 6/17/2019 at 4:34 PM, TauntaunScout said: That “other” game company seems to have a policy of upsetting customers whenever possible. And they are doing fine. Not really. Ever since the big shift in company communication they've done quite a bit better for customers overall. Even if their prices still horrify people. 1 ScummyRebel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TauntaunScout 4,280 Posted June 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, ZebioLizard2 said: Not really. Ever since the big shift in company communication they've done quite a bit better for customers overall. Even if their prices still horrify people. We'll see. I take the long view. They've done better and worse before, it goes in waves. The prices are a complex issue. If you take any given item the cost has drastically outpaced inflation since I began in the mid 90's, particularly when you consider that you need more models and you're paying far more for plastic than metal. If you found a way to somehow account for that, the price increases would probably be considered exponential since I started. However! If you only want the two core set factions expanded to legal 1,000 point armies (with the rules necessary to use those exact models) after inflation it's actually cheaper than it was in the 90's, to get that sort of a 40k setup. Assuming you use a different brand of paint, because Citadel Colour has also rapidly outpaced inflation. Buying into the "real" game is way cheaper than when I was young. Two core sets would do it. Back in the day you'd need a core set, Dark Millenium, 2 codices, several character blisters, and some other units as well, probably adding up to around $498 in today's money, by the time you really got to sink your teeth into the game and play 1,000 point battles with some variation and broad swathe of unit types. Whereas two copies of Dark Imperium would only be $320 and would give you 1,000 point armies with a few spare things to tinker with today. So if you want the latest and greatest thing to drop, well I have no idea who is willing to pay these prices. But if you just want to play 40k, then it's cheaper than ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famado 26 Posted June 20, 2019 This may be stupid but it just occurred to me: could this have nothing to do with customs and the busy ports? Could they be pushing the releases back because of this weekend's competition? I mean, could the new units have such an impact on the gameplay that the competition could become uneven? Or could they fear the chance of sloppy gameplay and with lots of raised questions due to the short time to learn how to play some units and their abilities? (Poison for instance) Could FFG just be trying to make sure this goes smoothly and with solid gameplay? I mean, they could pre determine the eligible units in advance, so maybe it doesn't make much sense.. I just want my new units before I go on holidays please... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caimheul1313 2,993 Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, famado said: This may be stupid but it just occurred to me: could this have nothing to do with customs and the busy ports? Could they be pushing the releases back because of this weekend's competition? I mean, could the new units have such an impact on the gameplay that the competition could become uneven? Or could they fear the chance of sloppy gameplay and with lots of raised questions due to the short time to learn how to play some units and their abilities? (Poison for instance) Could FFG just be trying to make sure this goes smoothly and with solid gameplay? I mean, they could pre determine the eligible units in advance, so maybe it doesn't make much sense.. I just want my new units before I go on holidays please... The AT-ST is really the only late model and that wouldn't have changed anything. Plus according to the official Tournament Rules, doesn't product have to be out for at least two weeks? The "next" release is Bossk and Sabine, so would have been one operative for each side which should have unbalanced anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Welshie13 92 Posted June 21, 2019 My local UK store has Bossk and Sabine arriving next Thursday. Looking forward to getting hold of them. 1 ScummyRebel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScummyRebel 5,353 Posted June 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Welshie13 said: My local UK store has Bossk and Sabine arriving next Thursday. Looking forward to getting hold of them. Hopefully this will hold true for the US as well. On the bright side, unlike xwing you can play with your operatives immediately if you get them early. Poor Aussies and their early ships. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caimheul1313 2,993 Posted June 21, 2019 Spanish site has had the 28th listed for Bossk, Sabine, Downed AT-ST, and the Rebel Vets which generally means earlier that week for everywhere else. Also has Tauntauns, Dewbacks, and Shoretroopers as Q3 now... Which would be interesting. I'm almost inclined to think the veterans got the wrong date? Unless FFG is trying to get stuff out the door ASAP before Clone Wars... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manoftomorrow010 1,119 Posted June 21, 2019 My store confirmed the 28th for Bossk. So I would guess that's also the street date for the rest of Q2 stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TauntaunScout 4,280 Posted June 21, 2019 3 hours ago, ScummyRebel said: Hopefully this will hold true for the US as well. On the bright side, unlike xwing you can play with your operatives immediately if you get them early. Poor Aussies and their early ships. Why I don’t want a virtual roster right here, folks. Plus I want a game that will still work 10 years after the website goes dark. 4 miridor, Caimheul1313, GreatMazinkaiser and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged Gundark 21 Posted June 21, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 5:35 PM, TauntaunScout said: We'll see. I take the long view. They've done better and worse before, it goes in waves. The prices are a complex issue. If you take any given item the cost has drastically outpaced inflation since I began in the mid 90's, particularly when you consider that you need more models and you're paying far more for plastic than metal. If you found a way to somehow account for that, the price increases would probably be considered exponential since I started. However! If you only want the two core set factions expanded to legal 1,000 point armies (with the rules necessary to use those exact models) after inflation it's actually cheaper than it was in the 90's, to get that sort of a 40k setup. Assuming you use a different brand of paint, because Citadel Colour has also rapidly outpaced inflation. Buying into the "real" game is way cheaper than when I was young. Two core sets would do it. Back in the day you'd need a core set, Dark Millenium, 2 codices, several character blisters, and some other units as well, probably adding up to around $498 in today's money, by the time you really got to sink your teeth into the game and play 1,000 point battles with some variation and broad swathe of unit types. Whereas two copies of Dark Imperium would only be $320 and would give you 1,000 point armies with a few spare things to tinker with today. So if you want the latest and greatest thing to drop, well I have no idea who is willing to pay these prices. But if you just want to play 40k, then it's cheaper than ever. Two Black Reaches when it came out in 2004 would cost $100 total. That gave 58 on one side and 34 on the other side. Dark Imperium was the first GW starter set to break the $100 mark. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TauntaunScout 4,280 Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Winged Gundark said: Two Black Reaches when it came out in 2004 would cost $100 total. That gave 58 on one side and 34 on the other side. Dark Imperium was the first GW starter set to break the $100 mark. These numbers don’t make sense to me. 58 what? 34 what? Also AoBR was not $50 MSRP so it would be more than $100. And would 58 somethings be enough to play the “real” game in 2004? Also what was the MSRP adjustment for inflation to the present? Or compared with the cost of the “real” game in years prior adjusted for inflation? Edited June 21, 2019 by TauntaunScout Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derrault 1,091 Posted June 21, 2019 @manoftomorrow010 "My store confirmed the 28th for Bossk. So I would guess that's also the street date for the rest of Q2 stuff." Bossk and Sabine shipping notification received, so that checks out for ~Wednesday-ish (based on previous shipments). Odd that the downed AT-ST still hasn't shipped. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TallGiraffe 3,454 Posted June 22, 2019 Hey TX-130s are canon again. 1 1 Alpha17 and Derrault reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth evil 907 Posted June 22, 2019 weird a Store in Quebec city posted a photo of Outer Rim, Sabine,Bossk and the Downed AT-ST in stock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TauntaunScout 4,280 Posted June 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Darth evil said: weird a Store in Quebec city posted a photo of Outer Rim, Sabine,Bossk and the Downed AT-ST in stock I love the gaming stores in Quebec city. The one in the basement library is great. And that comic shop “Premiere Issue” or something or other is really fun. 1 Red Castle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Castle 3,875 Posted June 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said: I love the gaming stores in Quebec city. The one in the basement library is great. And that comic shop “Premiere Issue” or something or other is really fun. If you are talking about the store called 'Le Dongeon', sadly it closed 2-3 years ago. It's true that it was a great place, it was my first X-Wing tournament that I attended to in Quebec City. One of his employee opened a store called 'Hellfire', it seems to specialise in Magic and Game Workshop. He tried to start an X-Wing and Destiny scene when he opened, but it was during the transition from Lion Rampant to Asmodee, so placing order was a mess and he lost a lot of sales because of that. Now, I believe 'L'Imaginaire' is the best place to buy and play in Quebec City. There doesn't seems to be a Legion scene though. 1 TauntaunScout reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha17 2,854 Posted June 23, 2019 On 6/21/2019 at 7:11 PM, TallGiraffe said: Hey TX-130s are canon again. If FFG wants to print money, they'd release the Saber as the first Republic heavy option. I know I'd pick up 2, even if I couldn't make that work in Legion. Old school Battlefront and the original The Clone Wars game fans would also likely pick it up. More objectively, the TX-130 would be a different type of unit (we don't have a repulsorlift tank in the game yet) and may even work as a non-open transport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnoldrew 1,724 Posted June 23, 2019 On 6/21/2019 at 10:45 AM, TauntaunScout said: Why I don’t want a virtual roster right here, folks. Plus I want a game that will still work 10 years after the website goes dark. I probably should bother telling you since you've been told before and ignored it, but they release a pdf with all point costs at the same time or before they update the app. You don't need an electronic device to build a list, and it's really no different from having a new RRG every few months. The fact that people have told you this several times and you still say the same thing over and over means that perhaps you should examine yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TauntaunScout 4,280 Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, arnoldrew said: I probably should bother telling you since you've been told before and ignored it, but they release a pdf with all point costs at the same time or before they update the app. You don't need an electronic device to build a list, and it's really no different from having a new RRG every few months. The fact that people have told you this several times and you still say the same thing over and over means that perhaps you should examine yourself. Still need a device for that pdf. “You don’t need an electronic device [to use a pdf]” is absurd. I hate the electronic RRG and want a book. Edited June 23, 2019 by TauntaunScout 1 lologrelol reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites