arnoldrew 1,713 Posted April 8, 2019 Page 32 of the RRG says (under Embark and Disembark) When a unit disembarks, if the vehicle that is transporting that unit has performed more than one standard move during the current round, disembarking uses that unit’s entire activation and it cannot perform additional actions or any free actions Page 42 of the RRG (under Movement) says: The primary way that units move is by performing a move action. When a unit performs a move action, it performs a standard move, reverse, pivot, climb, or clamber. So a reverse is not a standard move. Therefore, a GOCAT could deploy butt-towards-enemy, reverse twice (going the same speed it does going forward {page 52 under Reverse}), and then when the unit it is carrying activates they can disembark and then perform their standard action. Am I missing anything? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azeronbloodmoone 189 Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, arnoldrew said: Page 32 of the RRG says (under Embark and Disembark) When a unit disembarks, if the vehicle that is transporting that unit has performed more than one standard move during the current round, disembarking uses that unit’s entire activation and it cannot perform additional actions or any free actions Page 42 of the RRG (under Movement) says: The primary way that units move is by performing a move action. When a unit performs a move action, it performs a standard move, reverse, pivot, climb, or clamber. So a reverse is not a standard move. Therefore, a GOCAT could deploy butt-towards-enemy, reverse twice (going the same speed it does going forward {page 52 under Reverse}), and then when the unit it is carrying activates they can disembark and then perform their standard action. Am I missing anything? you know you weren't suppose to leak this right :-D. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisWall 966 Posted April 8, 2019 10 hours ago, arnoldrew said: Page 32 of the RRG says (under Embark and Disembark) When a unit disembarks, if the vehicle that is transporting that unit has performed more than one standard move during the current round, disembarking uses that unit’s entire activation and it cannot perform additional actions or any free actions Page 42 of the RRG (under Movement) says: The primary way that units move is by performing a move action. When a unit performs a move action, it performs a standard move, reverse, pivot, climb, or clamber. So a reverse is not a standard move. Therefore, a GOCAT could deploy butt-towards-enemy, reverse twice (going the same speed it does going forward {page 52 under Reverse}), and then when the unit it is carrying activates they can disembark and then perform their standard action. Am I missing anything? Seems like a really expensive way to get a unit across the battlefield. It also pretty much prevents you from meaningfully ever using the Fixed: Front weapons and is pretty clearly a shenanigan, so I'd expect it to be locked out at some point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nashjaee 750 Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, KrisWall said: Seems like a really expensive way to get a unit across the battlefield. It also pretty much prevents you from meaningfully ever using the Fixed: Front weapons and is pretty clearly a shenanigan, so I'd expect it to be locked out at some point. I anticipate it will be corrected at some point. Fixed: Front is not nearly as much of a negative here as people may initially think. If you’re double-moving, you weren’t using your guns that turn anyway. And with the free pivot before or after moving next turn, you have 180-degrees of rotation to get your guns where they need to be. Of course, it depends on having enough room to maneuver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwatchi 88 Posted April 16, 2019 On 4/7/2019 at 10:28 PM, arnoldrew said: Am I missing anything? A conscience? I kid That is a good rules wording catch. Getting this out in open now will spare FFG the need to create a Rearview Mirror upgrade card. 2 Derrault and Kalandros reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites