Clone Wars Unit Request & Speculation

[That Blasted Samophlange 6,923]

5 minutes ago, Paladin Ignatius said:

 The only one stronger is the Emperor.

 

You know whose stronger than the emperor?

Can ya dig it?

[Sharkbelly 742]

Fact. Shaft killed the emperor.

[Platinum_V 109]

13 hours ago, BlueSquadronPilot said:

So with destroyer droids getting shields, this opens the door and makes me think republic clone commandos are inevitable. Now that there is a unit shield mechanic, it would be crazy not to include them!

The Reconfiguration upgrades also lend themselves to the sniper/grenade launcher attatments for the DC17 quite well. 

[Jabby 1,042]

2 hours ago, Paladin Ignatius said:

  The only one stronger than the Emperor.

 

Edited April 3, 2019 by Jabby

[Tealadin 51]

On 3/31/2019 at 12:18 PM, thepopemobile100 said:

Agreed. Dooku is probably going to be the only commander I'll by more than one of just so I can paint one as Saruman.

So I did this with the core set, my friend got his first so we had a normal Vader and when I got my Vader I painted him in white with a blue saber like in the Infinity comic.

[Tealadin 51]

On 4/1/2019 at 1:00 PM, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Honestly, I'd keep them at a white defense, but give them nimble, they carry the standard droid blasters, so white ranged, but they were deadly in close.  I'd also give surge to defense AND attack, maybe even surge to crit.

there should be an upgrade that adds the melee weapon that we see the squad leaders have.

I’d also give them 2 health and 2 (maybe 3) morale.

Speed 3.   

Forgot to add infiltrate

 

We already know that they won't have a White for range because of the B1's weapon upgrade.  They're upgrade rifle is 2 blacks (if I'm remembering correctly)  and is stated in the canon as being the gun of the droid commandos. So I agree with previous statements.  Small group of 3 with heavy upgrade,  probably opposite the Clone Commandos.

[Paladin Ignatius 98]

3 hours ago, Sharkbelly said:

Fact. Shaft killed the emperor.

Shaft to a reactor core!  

[Paladin Ignatius 98]

11 minutes ago, Tealadin said:

So I did this with the core set, my friend got his first so we had a normal Vader and when I got my Vader I painted him in white with a blue saber like in the Infinity comic.

Nice!  An employee at my local game store painted his Vader in pink and white as Hello Kitty Vader.  He also turned his AT-ST into a Hello Kitty Walker, complete with yellow nose and whiskers!

[Tealadin 51]

On 4/2/2019 at 4:48 AM, Iceeagle85 said:

I would like to see Yoda, Mace Windu, Ki Adi Mundi, B2 Super Battle Droids, Single Trooper Aerial Platform, Armored Assault Tank, Rex, Cody, Hailfire-class Droid tank and the squad from the Republic Commando game

Ooh are you talking about the clone command platform from Geonosis? That would be a cool vehicle. 

[That Blasted Samophlange 6,923]

1 hour ago, Tealadin said:

We already know that they won't have a White for range because of the B1's weapon upgrade.  They're upgrade rifle is 2 blacks (if I'm remembering correctly)  and is stated in the canon as being the gun of the droid commandos. So I agree with previous statements.  Small group of 3 with heavy upgrade,  probably opposite the Clone Commandos.

I can't see any reference to the E-5c (the heavy upgrade for B1’s) being a commando default weapon.  What I've seen them use in clone wars was the standard E-5 that the B1’s use as well.   If I'm missing a source, please let me know.

even if they had a white die for ranged, they could very well excel in hand to hand.

Personally, I would love of the commando droids were a melee focused unit with infiltrate.   Get close to an enemy and lock them down right away.  

[Felswrath 678]

1 hour ago, Paladin Ignatius said:

Shaft to a reactor core!  

Emperor to Architect

"And I want my grand Throne Room to have a giant shaft that falls down for kilometers down to the reactor core. That'll help with heating the room, right?

[Paladin Ignatius 98]

23 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

I can't see any reference to the E-5c (the heavy upgrade for B1’s) being a commando default weapon.  What I've seen them use in clone wars was the standard E-5 that the B1’s use as well.   If I'm missing a source, please let me know.

even if they had a white die for ranged, they could very well excel in hand to hand.

Personally, I would love of the commando droids were a melee focused unit with infiltrate.   Get close to an enemy and lock them down right away.  

Yeah, all of the Clone Wars episodes show them using E-5s to deadly effect.  I think they'll have a white die for range, but will have the Tactical keyword and an attack surge which will change surges to critical hits.  For close, I think they'll have a black die, with the option to purchase a Droid Commando Captain heavy weapons upgrade which would bring on the dreaded vibrosword.

[Tealadin 51]

2 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

I can't see any reference to the E-5c (the heavy upgrade for B1’s) being a commando default weapon.  What I've seen them use in clone wars was the standard E-5 that the B1’s use as well.   If I'm missing a source, please let me know.

even if they had a white die for ranged, they could very well excel in hand to hand.

Personally, I would love of the commando droids were a melee focused unit with infiltrate.   Get close to an enemy and lock them down right away.  

Its the upgrade card with the orange background. Looks like it's 3 Black dice instead of 2.

[That Blasted Samophlange 6,923]

11 minutes ago, Tealadin said:

Its the upgrade card with the orange background. Looks like it's 3 Black dice instead of 2.

I get where the upgrade is for B1’s, what I cant see in any media, thus canon, is the BX commando using this rifle.

Edited April 3, 2019 by That Blasted Samophlange

[Tealadin 51]

1 hour ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

I get where the upgrade is for B1’s, what I cant see in any media, thus canon, is the BX commando using this rifle.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/SC_blaster_rifle

It's legends, but this was a reference I found.

Edited April 3, 2019 by Tealadin

[Paladin Ignatius 98]

1 hour ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

I get where the upgrade is for B1’s, what I cant see in any media, thus canon, is the BX commando using this rifle.

 

19 minutes ago, Tealadin said:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/SC_blaster_rifle

It's legends, but this was a reference I found.

Yeah, that is the rifle, but the droid commandos never used them.  They preferred accuracy over spray, which makes sense given their mission profile.  

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/BX-series_droid_commando

[That Blasted Samophlange 6,923]

1 hour ago, Tealadin said:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/SC_blaster_rifle

It's legends, but this was a reference I found.

Ugh..  not only legends, but the source is wizards of tho coast..  a company so inept, they caused decades of consternation with the size of the HWK-290.

[Paladin Ignatius 98]

39 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Ugh..  not only legends, but the source is wizards of tho coast..  a company so inept, they caused decades of consternation with the size of the HWK-290.

The idea of Legends material is kind of sad: so here's this rich, deep tapestry of a universe and we're going to just going to relegate it to a corner.  And know their killing of the Skywalker/Solo family because they're too old?  Hello people, that already happened IN LEGENDS!!!

 

Sorry, sometimes I lose control of my emotions.

[LennoxPoodle 191]

To get a couple of additional units into the discussion:

Firstly there are still a couple of untouched clone Variants, 

namely special ops clone troopers(phase I),Clone Paratroopers (phase II)and Galactic Marines (phase II too).

Most of them seem to be good candidates for either corps or spec ops.

As for vehicles, the AT-AP seems to be the best candidate for a non-giant heavy combat walker

[aniron 218]

LAAT's are on the core set box art, though...

[That Blasted Samophlange 6,923]

1 hour ago, LennoxPoodle said:

To get a couple of additional units into the discussion:

Firstly there are still a couple of untouched clone Variants, 

namely special ops clone troopers(phase I),Clone Paratroopers (phase II)and Galactic Marines (phase II too).

Most of them seem to be good candidates for either corps or spec ops.

As for vehicles, the AT-AP seems to be the best candidate for a non-giant heavy combat walker

The special forces trooper is unlikely, though, as it fulfills a similar role to clone commandoes, which are more likely.   However, I mentioned it earlier, there was an unused clone radio operator that used the same armour.

so I think the sculpt would make a GREAT comms officer, and with comms jammer, fulfils a similar role to the initial clone special ops. But better as a unit upgrade than a full unit.

As to the clone paratroopers, as long as they have jetpacks, that makes for a good unit, plus, unique helmets.  So makes a good special forces unit.

The galactic marines are incoming, no doubt, while looking like snow troopers, they would make a good special forces, or barring that, veteran unit.    Due to their aggressiveness, I'd give them indomitable as a keyword.

As to the AT-AP..  sadly you are right scale wise, but that thing is ugly..  due to the (incomprehensible) leg layout, I’d give it plodding.

 

 

 

[Alpha17 2,853]

I'd see Clone Paratroopers as having the Infiltrate keyword, so they could just plop right down anywhere they want.  Save the jetpacks for specialist jet troopers.  Maybe spice it up with "Infiltrate 2," and they start off at range two rather than 3.  In my perfect world, they'd be Corps units, but in this game they'll undoubtedly be SF.  I'd limit their weapon range, and heavy weapon options to make them feel like airborne troops, but make them hard as **** to wipe out.  Certainly allows for some "bridge too far" scenarios where you put them on an objective, then have to race your main troops to relieve them before they get wiped out. 

[Paladin Ignatius 98]

I don't think we're going to see Phase II armor for the clones in this game, so that may rule out the Clone Paratroopers.  I personally prefer the Phase I armor and the troop types associated with it, but they may do certain specialist units in Phase II armor.  Just a thought.

[Alpha17 2,853]

8 minutes ago, Paladin Ignatius said:

I don't think we're going to see Phase II armor for the clones in this game, so that may rule out the Clone Paratroopers.  I personally prefer the Phase I armor and the troop types associated with it, but they may do certain specialist units in Phase II armor.  Just a thought.

I have to disagree with you there.  I'm 99.99% certain we'll see Phase II armor in the game.  The fact that they specifically labeled the Clone trooper corps units as "Phase I" argues strongly in favor of the eventual Phase II being a later unit.  No reason to include the distinction if it wasn't going to matter. 

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59 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

I have to disagree with you there.  I'm 99.99% certain we'll see Phase II armor in the game.  The fact that they specifically labeled the Clone trooper corps units as "Phase I" argues strongly in favor of the eventual Phase II being a later unit.  No reason to include the distinction if it wasn't going to matter. 

+1. They are named Phase 1 clones for a reason. My bet is Phase II comes out 1st quarter of 2020